Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

Mallore wrote:Video game rating of teen does not equal pg-13. It's close but not the same. People confuse video game ratings (self regulated) with broadcast/visual media ratings ( government regulated)

Worth stating I do not want to see people's crazy fetish stuff.

My old box still has an "M" for mature.

DnD is not for children, but from a literary perspective, we tolerate much darker themes. Some things adapted from literature older kids read cannot be put on the TV or a movie without an adult rating. I have always found this to be a double standard. If you let your child play DnD and do not explain thing to them, they may search out thing related to DnD that you may not want them to see, hear, or be exposed to. The lore can get grimdark very fast. You cannot turn this into a family game without bastardizing the writers original content. Evil is very real in DnD.

Back when I was still relatively new to the server I had a deep gnome named Side Ydonal. He got in trouble with a local drow house and got captured during a short war between them and another guild.

He had a torture experience that likely wouldn't be allowed today. I wouldn't call it gratuitous, but considering some of the replies in this thread I think some would. It was a perfect example of just how cruel the drow can be, it fit the setting and the RP surrounding it, and it was the natural outcome of the actions of every player involved. If anyone wants details feel free to PM me.

Considering just how much that event shaped the rest of my time on this server it honestly breaks my heart that no one else would be allowed to experience something like it today. The particular wounds caused by the event spawned new ideas for new characters, including one I'm very fond of that I'm still playing to this day. Fading to black is nice and all, but it's the details that make the memory.

OOCly we were all friends going into it, and we were all friends after the fact. No one was forced to do anything they were uncomfortable with. I had every opportunity to prevent my character from putting himself in harms way, but the RP led that direction and I wasn't about to let my own personal feelings get in the way of it. Some people would have directed the RP elsewhere to spare themselves, and that is perfectly fine and acceptable, but that doesn't mean their point of view should be the baseline.

The rules describe what is allowed. Unless you go through one by one and describe every situation the rules have to cover things in broad strokes. In this case the rules should be about making sure everyone involved is on the same page, and has a proper out if things go in a direction the player is uncomfortable with. The rules should do their absolute best to not limit the natural progression of RP.

I'm sorry that some people have felt that torture RP was thrown in their faces, and I'm sorry it was a bad experience for you, but you don't have to sit around and let RP like that happen. Speak up and let everyone know you don't want to participate. We are all friends here and no one will hold anything against you. You're not going to ruin things for others, and you should feel no pressure to go along with it if you don't like it.

If the DMs don't follow the rules, for whatever reason, you leave. You log out if needed, and you report them to the DM team. If you feel pressured into accepting then send a private message to the DM involved. If the DM doesn't listen then leave, as they are not the kind of DM you want running an event for your character.

You always have an out, and no slippery slope argument is going to change that fact. You don't have to participate if you don't want to. End of story.

There is room for everyone on this server, so long as we take the time to respect each other. That is what the rules are for. If someone is uncomfortable the rules should protect them, but at the same time if everyone is fine with it the rules should not stop them. There are still limits, but the fewer of them the better. The first step toward using the rules this way would be DM supervision, which would involve DM events, so I vote yes. So long as we respect every single person involved there should be no issue with PG13+ themes in a PG13 setting.

I think DM's should be subject to the same rules the rest of the server are.

Then again, I think the rule of mutual consent should apply - if all parties are part of RP then they should be allowed to act it out - though if it's above Teen-rated, it should come with the requirement of it being in a private place & not public, so passers by aren't offended by it.