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Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:11 pm
by Steve
Ha! Players Handbook:
ALIGNMENT
In the temple of Pelor is an ancient tome. When the temple recruits
adventurers for its most sensitive and important quests, each one
who wants to participate must kiss the book. Those who are evil in
their hearts are blasted by holy power, and even those who are neither
good nor evil are stunned. Only those who are good can kiss the
tome without harm and are trusted with the temple’s most
important work. Good and evil are not philosophical concepts in the
D&D game. They are the forces that define the cosmos.
Devils in human guise stalk the land, tempting people toward
evil. Holy clerics use the power of good to protect worshipers. Devotees
of evil gods bring ruin on innocents to win the favor of their
deities, while trusting that rewards await them in the afterlife.
Crusading paladins fearlessly confront evildoers, knowing that
this short life is nothing worth clinging to. Warlords turn to
whichever supernatural power will help them conquer, and
proxies for good and evil gods promise rewards in return for the
warlords’ oaths of obedience.
A creature’s general moral and personal attitudes are
represented by its alignment: lawful good, neutral good,
chaotic good, lawful neutral, neutral, chaotic neutral, lawful
evil, neutral evil, and chaotic evil. (See Table 6–1: Creature,
Race, and Class Alignments, on the next page, for examples of
which creatures, races, and classes favor which alignments.)
Choose an alignment for your character, using his or her
race and class as a guide. Most player characters are good or
neutral rather than evil. In general, evil alignments are for
villains and monsters.
Alignment is a tool for developing your character’s
identity. It is not a straitjacket for restricting your
character. Each alignment represents a broad range of
personality types or personal philosophies, so two lawful
good characters can still be quite different from each
other. In addition, few people are completely consistent.
A lawful good character may have a greedy streak that
occasionally tempts him to take something or hoard
something he has even if that’s not lawful or good
behavior. People are also not consistent from day to day. A
good character can lose his temper, a neutral character can
be inspired to perform a noble act, and so on.
Choosing an alignment for your character means stating your
intent to play that character a certain way. If your character acts in a
way more appropriate to another alignment, the DM may decide
that your character’s alignment has changed to match her actions.
There is sooooo much I could underline there...but I'll just let it be fully digested...every single word.
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:31 pm
by Deathgrowl
I have made an evil character now. It is level 25 and looking for purpose.
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 10:47 pm
by Tekill
(okay, sounds good Deathgrowl. I will count you in for now. Each of us commits as much as their characters sees fit.)
This thread kind of split into two topics. The Nature of Evil and the birth of The Murder Hobo's. This will be the last post I will make regarding the Gang forming.
Okay so this is a bit of an update. The Murder Hobo's are about to start Beta Testing. I am going to wait until the end of this weekend to make sure everyone has had a chance to sign up, by sending me a PM. I am still waiting on 3 players to reply but there are 11 of us, including me sofar- so we got the players! Yusssss!
Most of us are ready to be naughty. Most of us seem to be thugs, bandits, thieves types with one or two possible...er....more unique characters (including my own) also showing up.
The core of the Murder Hobo's is level ranged between 15 and 25. There might be one or two players outside that range.
Anyone is still welcome to sign up. And of coarse you can try and join in game as well if you prefer a more organic way of becoming part of the crew.
Okay back to your regular evil discussion:
...I mean, but what IS evil really?
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:27 pm
by Young Werther
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 11:55 pm
by Sokolsky
I find Examplars of Evil to be a very interesting read, even though they mostly refrain from using the term "Evil." Instead, they use the term "Villain."
Their usage of the term "Villain" seems to boil down to "Adversary." They even have a page about the "Non-evil villain." I personally find that very interesting, because I believe interesting RP comes from opposition, which doesn't necessarily mean Evil vs Good. It could just as well mean law vs chaos, rich vs poor, nature vs constructions, young vs old, or any of a thousand other subjects.
That said, I'm also a Proud Murder Hobo
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:50 am
by Max Hatchet
A group of 4-5 people I play with are planning to make a gang of pirates who will probably be more or less evil or mostly evil but neutral and even conflicted goods may be possible.
Essentially tho they will be criminals, ruffians and cuthroats. Non pirates engaging them will probably receive some rp abuse/unfriendliness/conflict altho probably not overt PvP.
We are starting at first level this week and other piratey types may be welcome if they look right and speak all piratey and have a pirate name like Jack Haddock or Bessie Blacktide.
We may be appending a pirate gang name to our visible names but that’s yet to be confirmed.
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 11:31 pm
by ShineDown
Tekill wrote:
...I mean, but what IS evil really?
In a classical sense evil is pretty multifaceted. The seven deadly sins to start, envy, greed, lust gluttony, wrath, laziness and pride, all have their place. Evil could be shallow like a merchant who sells shoddy goods to people he doesn't know knowingly just to make bank and doesn't care. On the other end is the person that will connive and get someone near and dear to them to make money, then take it from them and in doing so sacrifice their love, respect, even family bond with no remorse at all. And the next day marry a rich old widow, only a year later for her to die of a seeming heart attack.
All evil can be put in three categories.
Born that way (Nothing more to say there)
Learned (Observation of behaviours (trial and error) or simply being taught. A conscious process)
Contraction (exposure which 'infects' the person with a behaviour. Generally unconscious learning)
All of these could said to be what 'good' is as well.
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:25 am
by Darkwind
ShineDown wrote: On the other end is the person that will connive and get someone near and dear to them then and sacrifice their love, respect, even family bond with no remorse at all.
Then there is Over 9000 Mega Evil who will sacrifice the LIFE of the family member they love and then snap their fingers and kill half the life in the known universe. Sort of the extreme 'other end'. Let's hope this guy doesn't show up!
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:28 am
by electric mayhem
Darkwind wrote:ShineDown wrote: On the other end is the person that will connive and get someone near and dear to them then and sacrifice their love, respect, even family bond with no remorse at all.
Then there is Over 9000 Mega Evil who will sacrifice the LIFE of the family member they love and then snap their fingers and kill half the life in the known universe. Sort of the extreme 'other end'. Let's hope this guy doesn't show up!
And when he does show up...
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 3:00 pm
by azermas
*would vote Thanos for World Presidency 10/10*
Also , i have a possible extra member for the murder hobos.. but he's already 30.
Name's Locke , let me know if you need one more.
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:46 pm
by Tekill
@ Max Hatchet - Seek me out in game or send me a pm if you want to work with the Murder Hobo's. We need a naval satellite sect of The Murder Hobos....The Murder Hobo Marines?
Har. Jk (no I'm not).
But your crew looks like it would work well with mine.
Go evil teamwork!!
I have sent out a mass email to all the players that have committed a player to the Murder Hobo Cause- about our starting things up.
If I missed anyone that has a player that still wants in, let me know and i will send them a copy of that PM. There are also three players that have expressed interest in the gang but have yet to commit a players- I counted you out for now, but hurry up if you still want in!!
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:12 pm
by Steve
Could you stop referring to the group as Murder Hobos, unless they ARE murder hobos as an agenda/motive based group?
Don't wanna get involved in false advertising!
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:43 pm
by Tekill
Steve wrote:Could you stop referring to the group as Murder Hobos, unless they ARE murder hobos as an agenda/motive based group?
Don't wanna get involved in false advertising!
You see, false advertising is misleading and dishonest which is also evil...eeeehh!? eeeeh?!
Yeah, you are not the first to complain over my use of that unofficial title...from now on we shall be:
"The Gang That Dare Not Speak Its Own Name, Because Its Too Evil Even For Us!!!"
Or TGTDNSIWNBITEEFU!!!, for short.
We are just a crew atm...we do not need a name...Labels are for Losers...LAFL?...LR4L?
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 8:53 pm
by ShineDown
Steve wrote:Could you stop referring to the group as Murder Hobos, unless they ARE murder hobos as an agenda/motive based group?
I sure hope this is the case.
And great name
Re: Taking Another Whack at Surface Evil RP. Who Wants In?
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:50 am
by Steve
I’m not personally opposed to a Murder Hobo gang, if it is truly Chaotic Evil in nature. That could be loads of fun!
But if you’re NOT going full metal hobo here, but using the term OOC, you’ll likely find others take your effort as Murder Hobo in a meta gaming kind of way, assuming you are what you are not!
What are you(s)?!?
Now that I think about it more, the ruthless, sadistic, cutthroat, bandit beasts gang does have a certain appeal...though by most accounts, to be short lived!
