Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

This has been bugging me for quite some time:

I've come across several orcs running around in populated areas passing Fist soldiers and the like and how do they do this? Well the smart ones, a paradox when it comes to orcs, are fully masked so of course noone will identify the overly huge brute running by them as an orc. Of course noone would get suspicious - especially not a Flaming Fist guard officer - and ask the orc to remove the mask for closer inspection.

Overall I think orcs should be made UD only the drow could probably use some strong slaves and then we'd get to kill them on sight again when we come across them on the surface which is how it should be seeing as people who have travelled the wood of sharp teeth are unlikely to ever want to come close enough to an orc to go through the whole PvP consent thing but are more likely to run away or start shooting or casting spells as their first IC-reaction.

Gray Orcs make horrible slaves. They are too zealous and would likely die before being taken alive. They are the most religious orcs, and (having called upon them before) know the Orc gods favor them. And Gruumsh hates everyone.

It is kinda annoyeing, is anyone even reading the grey orc warning in the nexus?

I think they should definetly be treated with mroe hostility. And if they're in the Woods of Sharp Teeth then they'd probably be KoS (kind of like how it is with a shape-shifted Druid).

But I also still believe that the amount of mages and planar-beings on this server is waaaay above average as well.

I personally don't like any notion of "KOS" at all. Even for drows. I think pretty much every scenes need to be RPed.

They are, I see a drow as a threat to my life, I either run or kill - no questions because in that RP situation asking questions are the OOC behaviour.

Yeah, I kinda dislike that, personally, as I said. But I'm one of a kind who do everything to avoid being a part of pvp or even witness it.

I don't really think the matter of PvP is the problem with Gray orcs. I think its more that there's very little hostilely, the most i see them get is a few stares or rude comments (Or a lecture on the Orc-Gate wars from rhys).

Perhaps we can put the grey orc notice from the nexus into a book to be handed out to new orcs.

In my book if people choose to play evil races drow, orc, half drow KOS should go with it. Same goes for those playing followers of evil deities who openly state that they follow them....especially when they tell it to a follower of an opposed deity Malarite vs Silvanite for instance.

Angel Nightfire wrote:In my book if people choose to play evil races drow, orc, half drow KOS should go with it. Same goes for those playing followers of evil deities who openly state that they follow them....especially when they tell it to a follower of an opposed deity Malarite vs Silvarite for instance.

At this point there going to fight either way, KOS or not. Its just a matter of less words or not. Or you can just have the Fist kill them, as worshiping Malar is still illegal.

BlueHero45 wrote:At this point there going to fight either way, KOS or not. Its just a matter of less words or not. Or you can just have the Fist kill them, as worshiping Malar is still illegal.

That's not a bad idea.

Here's my own view on it, not the staff"s.

The thing is, if a race is KOS, it wouldn't be fair for every "good" race to not be KOS for the evil races as well. And what would it create? People who likes pvp would create evil race characters and pvp most of the time. And that's never good.

DM Passiflora wrote:Here's my own view on it, not the staff"s.

The thing is, if a race is KOS, it wouldn't be fair for every "good" race to not be KOS for the evil races as well. And what would it create? People who likes pvp would create evil race characters and pvp most of the time. And that's never good.

Pretty much this. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and if you're going to insist on an entire race being KoS then you (and everyone else on the surface) have to accept that they can attack you without provocation or any RP as well. Bad idea IMO.

I would actually expect that of orcs and drow, which is why I think orcs should be banned to the UD seeing as they are supposed to live underground anyway in caves and such. That way that sort of PvP won't happen often.

Angel Nightfire wrote:I would actually expect that of orcs and drow, which is why I think orc should be banned to the UD. That way it won't happen often.

Orcs are just as (if not more) prevalent on the surface as they are in the UD, I don't see any IC reason why they would be limited that way.