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Whirling Dervish

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:35 pm
by Snarfy
Is there any possibility improved evasion will be added to this prc? I can see why it was removed as a freebie at level 3, especially given the fact that the class gives defensive roll as well and pretty much hands a character epic dodge on a plate... perhaps the class abilities could be re-aligned instead of improved evasion being removed? Maybe something like this:

Level 1: Dash

Level 2: Evasion, Bonus Feat x3

Level 3: Spring Attack, Sneak Attack +1d6

Level 4: Critical Sense (+1 attack bonus)

Level 5: Expert Tumbling

Level 6: Whirlwind Attack, Sneak Attack +2d6

Level 7: Bonus Feat x3

Level 8: Defensive Roll

Level 9: Sneak Attack +3d6, Minor teleportation

Level 10: Improved evasion, Critical Sense (+2 attack bonus)


This way a player could try the full class out and still get the same epic feats as one that did staggered levels. For instance a Rog 13/Assassin 9/ WD 8 and a Rog 10/Assassin 10/WD 10 would both be able to get the same selection of feats: epic prowess, epic precision, epic dodge, expose weakness, PTWF.

Hmmm... now that I think about it this does seem a litte "cake and eat it", as the 10/10/10 would be able to get epic dodge and offensive epics VS the staggered possibly not being able to get ED, depending on what level you got improved evasion that is. :/ Damnit! Did I just sabotage my own suggestion? :D

Re: Whirling Dervish

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:46 pm
by Aeb Ankor
I had hoped for a similar change, but to make epic dodge available to other dex types that didn't want to go rogue or monk/sd, which there are a million of.

Whirling Swirling Mist Seeker
Ranger (13), Divine Seeker (4), Shadowdancer (3), Whirling Dervish (10)
http://nwn2db.com/build.php?id=82862&version=1
http://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=20886

More Info:
Should Whirling Dervish have Improved Evasion reinstated?
http://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=16019

Re: Whirling Dervish

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:18 pm
by Snarfy
Demitrious Ducas wrote:I had hoped for a similar change, but to make epic dodge available to other dex types that didn't want to go rogue or monk/sd, which there are a million of.

Whirling Swirling Mist Seeker
Ranger (13), Divine Seeker (4), Shadowdancer (3), Whirling Dervish (10)
http://nwn2db.com/build.php?id=82862&version=1
http://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=20886

More Info:
Should Whirling Dervish have Improved Evasion reinstated?
http://www.bgtscc.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=16019
Ahh cool, thanks for the topic link. That looks like a sweet build, certainly is different. I was aiming for Rog 10/Asn 9/WD 8/ and Tempest 3 to help out with the BAB and AC but even with improved evasion at level 10 this wouldn't fly. I'm more than happy to sacrifice tempest for epic dodge but no way would I take the upper end of WD and assassin over epic dodge. Maybe there's a compromise that can be made in there somewhere... I'd say get rid of whirlwind attack but that wouldn't be very whirling dervish at all :P Maybe toss expert tumbling or a sneak attack out?

Re: Whirling Dervish

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:58 pm
by Luna
I'll send it off to one of our guys who looks at PRC's.
But he's out of town until after new years.

Re: Whirling Dervish

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:11 pm
by Snarfy
Sweet! Thanks Luna.