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Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2012 7:48 pm
by narcaleptic
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*smoke can be seen from many locations in the sharptooth forest as old black orc huts burn to the ground. Totems are left at each fire of a large orc standing angry with orc bones clutched, crushing in his hand and, a leather skin helm with antlers raising to the heavens, a warning for black orcs. Only large tracks are left in the wake of burning embers, shoeless feet of a overly large orc and axe marks in the ground*

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:18 pm
by narcaleptic
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*Scattered bodies lay throughout the sharp tooth forest, always in groups no greater than three. Being picked off slowly and stealthy*



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*More smoke rises from the sharptooth forest as another set of old huts go up in flames.*

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:23 pm
by stevebarracuda
///I hate to break this to you, but the Black Orcs ARE NOT mountain orcs like in Sharpteeth. They are, for lack of better words, mega, super, hand-your-arse-to-you orcs on par with or more powerful than gray orcs.

The likely hood that one toon could go up against a black orc and win, is low.

I think a DM needs to come online here and establish some relational figures on the Black Orc tribe for the general populace, and for narcaleptic in particular.

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:44 pm
by Aeb Ankor
//Also, did you really use your area designer status to promote a personal character story????

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 9:59 pm
by narcaleptic
// hmm area design status to premote character? No not really I have offered to help with rp idea's in creating new approachs for the black orc rp, and mentioned what my character is doing in game as to create more conflict in game as to what the orcs might think is going on.

I never demained that Anything based on my title, only offered support.

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2012 10:05 pm
by narcaleptic
/// im sorry if that is how you took this as, but it was not my intention.

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:40 am
by Hoihe
((The first encounter I had with black orcs, in DM ogorgon's event. My level 6-12 party could take them rather well. We had a Mendel though. I should say 1 Black orc could be considered a level 17 barbarian or something.)).

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:08 am
by Darksider_war
Hoihe wrote:((The first encounter I had with black orcs, in DM ogorgon's event. My level 6-12 party could take them rather well. We had a Mendel though. I should say 1 Black orc could be considered a level 17 barbarian or something.)).
(yeah, and a week ago Tyressen [who is famous for being a pushover] has been killed by the blacks. They aren't really the ordinary run-of-the-mill orcs everyone is used to)

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:34 am
by Solarina
(( they are not level 17 hoihe lol more like level 30 they have 55 AB and hit like a truck.

On a side not lets not bash THE O.P nor make claims of abusing positions, thats a serious claim to casually lay down IMO and in poor taste. Devs, DMs and any staff are players too. I think we forget at times these people are players. are people like you and me, and lastly do not get paid.

I am dead sure if the O.P is out of line staff such as void will step in, that choice and decision is for staff such as void alone, not us random players to denigrate someone trying to generate some forum R.P

The wonderful thing about BG is the varied styles and imaginations of the players and staff. In These cases there will be some who's vision differs from anothers yes, but that is flavor and makes BG what it is.

Lets get this thread back IC, if staff feels the OPs post is out of place they will step in.

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:45 am
by Hoihe
((then the orcs in this event were the pushovers from black orcs:
DMogorgon wrote:
Rodeo Roundup: Blackorcs & Steers



Event

Several adventurers witnessed a cattle drive moving through the FAI onto Beregost. Any who offered to help were rudely dismissed by the mercenary guard, who were intent on collecting all the coin for the escort contract. Some time after they passed, Bheelo the RoughRider returned alone on horseback, bleeding from a headwound, a barbed orc arrow protruding from his side. A group largely composed of Paladins and clerics healed the man, while A few went down the road to see what happened. Bheelo revealed that they were fallen upon by orcs, the men and cargo taken towards the Woods of Sharp Teeth

The small group went to the sight of the assualt, shorlty along the lions way headed south. They were Joined by the Ranger Mendel, who followed the group from the shadows from this point. Some bickering ensued as the party grew, largely one elf nearly assaulting a teifling in the group. Bheelo, now bandaged up, eventually came upon them, offered them a reward if they could save the Steer, and told them that if they couldn't find them by the following dawn, then all would be lost.

The group had a hard time organizing, and it was some time before they made it to the woods of sharp teeth. Continuing to bicker, they were fallen upon by a group of warg-rider scouts, one of whom slipped away from the battle to call for reinforcements and warn the others. They came upon a group of orcs gathered around a cooking pot outside of a known orc den. It was noon (lunch time), and they had already cooked the man (the first Mercenary) and were well underway with their meal. THe party slew the orcs, but neglected to search the scene, instead lunging headlong into the cave, where they spent several hours killing starved orcs and searching tunnels, while the plight of the misisng mercenaries and the cattle grew increasingly dire. They picked up another adventurer or two in the tunnels.

Returning to the scene where the merc was eaten, a crow now sit atop his skull, devouring his eye. The druidess Calinde Enyeles went to speak to the animal, while the others continued along patrolling the forest in circles. Upon request, the bird took to flight and circled the woods a few times, it returned to Caldine and told her it saw two groups of orcs, one with cattle, headed northeast. THe ranger Mendel, still in the shadows, found tracks which also led NE. He started to whistle from the dark, trying to lure the party in that direction. They spent at least another hour marching in circles through the wood before they picked up the trail.

Once they followed it a ways, the trail split. Mendel - revealing himself now - noticed half the orcs went East with the men, the other half North With the Cattle. The groups split. The group heading east was felled by an orc assault. The group heading north eventually made their way to the cattle. They eventually circled around to the SouthEast, and found what remained of the remaining two guards, one mangled mercenary, and one traumatized guard captain curled up in the fetal position muttering about orcs and asking for his mommy.

Mendel went south and found the half of the party who had fallen to orc ambush. The remaining orcs who felled them were dispatched, and the 3 unconcious boddies were dragged to the rest of the group.

As the party determined what to do next, the sound of war drums started coming closer from the North East. They grabbed the surviving guard captain, the corpse, and 2 of the unconcious adventurers and prepared to escape. Keegan was quick thinking enough to put one of the bodies atop a cow and lead it. Mendel was able to round up 3 of the cows. Calinde, in the form of a wolf, was able to run around the back and herd another 5 cows. The 4 remaining cows likely slowed the orc assault slighlty as the party escaped and returned to the FAI. In the rush, one of the unconcious adventurers was left behind.

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Participants

Mendel
Calinde Enyeles
Althea Ehsani
Alaura Beaumont
Xandros shadowweaver (joined part way through)
Keegan Amherst
Arren Grey (joined part way through)

Rewards Penalties

1500-2800 xp depending on individual effort

5,000 out of 10,000 coin for saving 8 of the 12 cattle.

One patched up Bheelo the RoughRider who will deliver the remaining cattle to Beregost

One Mercenary they were trying to save cooked and eaten by orcs (with his eyes devoured by a helpful crow).

One Mercenary they were trying to save mangled to death by their leader after the party trying to save them fell.

One Mercenary Captain who will live his days out at the local asylum due to the Trauma suffered as a captive of the orcs.

One adventurer left behind who hopefully was not eaten by orcs (I'm sure he washed up somewhere).

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:07 am
by Darksider_war
Hoihe wrote:((then the orcs in this event were the pushovers from black orcs:
very likely :D

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:14 am
by Maverick 40
Hoihe wrote:((The first encounter I had with black orcs, in DM ogorgon's event. My level 6-12 party could take them rather well. We had a Mendel though. I should say 1 Black orc could be considered a level 17 barbarian or something.)).
// In the very first encounter with Black Orcs in this Campaign, Laisren and Mendel were cut down like dogs by a dozen of them.

The second encounter, Laisren and Mendel were a part of an epic party, about 8 toons, which included two level thirty Druids. The Black Orcs again came in about 12 strong, this time with a Shaman. I won't get into what that mofo can do, but this entire party was cut to pieces. Laisren and Mendel survived the party only by running the Orcs from their fallen comrades then hipsing into the forest shadows, backtracking and dragging each body in the opposite direction to safety.

Rhys of Doron knows these things well and our own exploits were well documented (in the Doronian Archive), so these creatures strength should be common knowledge as far as I know ;)

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:12 am
by Hoihe
I untangled the issue!


Remember the DM proclamation that one NPC can equal up to 20?

Well.. A single black orc that is really a single black orc: Even Calinde could take him on and win, with difficulty.

A single black orc that represents squadron of 3: Hoihe has trouble fighting them, their combined strength perhaps equals the black dragon.

Orcs fight in hordes..

1 black orc NPC = 10 Black orcs (That's what I think Tyre fought). The power scale is not even, for fighting a real 1 on 1 battle is sort of easy.. but having 3 on you will bring trouble. Now.. 10 black orcs are very distracting and they surround you. Very difficult to fight. Even fighting 10 simple human bandits can make a lonesome adventure break a sweat, even if they are used to fighting dragons. The reason being, he has to constantly change his position to avoid being surrounded, exhausting him and he has to change target all the time.


This theory also explains the tendency of NPCs rolling a lot of 20s. 10 people rolling 1d20 have a far bigger chance of getting 20 than 1 person rolling 1d20.

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:24 pm
by narcaleptic
Hoihe wrote:I untangled the issue!


Remember the DM proclamation that one NPC can equal up to 20?

Well.. A single black orc that is really a single black orc: Even Calinde could take him on and win, with difficulty.

A single black orc that represents squadron of 3: Hoihe has trouble fighting them, their combined strength perhaps equals the black dragon.

Orcs fight in hordes..

1 black orc NPC = 10 Black orcs (That's what I think Tyre fought). The power scale is not even, for fighting a real 1 on 1 battle is sort of easy.. but having 3 on you will bring trouble. Now.. 10 black orcs are very distracting and they surround you. Very difficult to fight. Even fighting 10 simple human bandits can make a lonesome adventure break a sweat, even if they are used to fighting dragons. The reason being, he has to constantly change his position to avoid being surrounded, exhausting him and he has to change target all the time.


This theory also explains the tendency of NPCs rolling a lot of 20s. 10 people rolling 1d20 have a far bigger chance of getting 20 than 1 person rolling 1d20.




Yea I agree with this statement much more 1v1 or geting the jump on just a few I think is possible for just about anyone over lvl 20 that does so with tactics. like you said they are horde fighters but I was much more so targeting scouts they would travel lighter and in smaller groups, less armor, lesser weapons... and all the huts burned where old and abandoned, the ones you walk by everyday in sharpteeth. The whole concept of this post was buurk using his skills as an assassin and Fallen ranger (hide, move siliently, survival) to do what he could to avenge the death of tyressen. Knowing buurks attitude and past history it just wouldnt be him if he didnt try something like this.

Re: Fires in the sharptooth forest

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:37 pm
by TheVoid
There are numerous levels of these creatures.

I think trying to take down and burn a camp of black orcs might get you dead quickly. i would refrain from rping killing these guys unless you have done so ig.