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Lost in decisions - need advice on a build.

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What I want is basically advice on a build and no, it doesnt have to be a power build in the end. It has to be the toon however...

So what do we know?
It is a professional dancer and delve in information gathering, very agile, medium intelligence, medium charismatic personality, strong social skills, hungers for power.

It's father and mother are both wizards (abjurer crafter and an enchantress) and it grew up in a hunter trader environment.
There are strong divine and merchantile elements present.

It favor fighting close and personal with slashing weapons to ranged combat, preferrably unexpectedly and gracefully.


Now what classes would represent this person?

It is not a bard (no poems, no singing... just dance and acting).

Well, so far I this time I am thinking rogue and dervish then I get stuck.. in particular because I think it should have some backbone as a wizard or sorcerer in it due to the immediate heritage.


So far it has been leveled on the server 5-6 times (once epic) but.. im missing something.

Help?
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Fighter 10/Dervish 10/Shadowdancer 10?
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How does that resemble an arcane heritage and strong social skills?

Beyond the swirling shadows and shadow jump being a cool party gag. :mrgreen:


Considered adding divine champion and divine seeker to it.. but.. again.. arcane hello?

Whirling dervish has been on my mind too.

The one time it hit 30 it was rogue assassin whirling dervish and guild thief.
The assassin and guild thief no longer feel ..well, right.
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Shadowdancer is a very supernatural class. You got Summon Shadow, Shadow Daze, Shadow Evade, and Shadow Jump that are very obviously supernatural abilities. (On top of HiPS.)

As for strong social skills, Shadowdancer has both Bluff and Diplomacy as class skills. Of Which Bluff is also a class skill to Dervish, and Fighter has access to Intimidate.

Now, what can be problematic with that build is the damage output. DErvish dance helps, but only so much. And it can be kind of sucky until you get Expose Weakness, (High Dexterity modifier for bleeding damage.) But your AC will be high, as will your AB, and you could go for Perfect Two-Weapon Fighting on top of it all.

Pair of hand-axes as your weapons of choice? (Or Butter Knives.)
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Rogue 10/wizard 5/dervish 10/invisible blade 5 ? Feinting to compensate the low AB.
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Acting and dancing are perform skills?
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Breteas, those are.
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What about harper scout?
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It would give some save boosts, and give little spellcasting progression too.
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Bard can be viable. "Bard Song" is just what NWN2 mechanics see it as, but you could RP bard song into bard dance. Perform is a skill that does cover Dance. If the character truly is a dancer, then you would need this skill.

Honestly, when I read the requirements my first though was 27/3 Wiz/SD and call it a day. But then I thought, why not Warlock/Bard/Shadowdancer? This would make a ton of sense as her wizardly parents made a deal and gave up their first born....
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Thank you all for the inputs so far.


Bard wont fly however, like mentioned earlier.
Shadow dancer go the same way, no shadow fluff thing (mechanically a nice addon but not on this toon).

Thinking feinter atm, if I have to go assassin for some reason so be it.
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Simian wrote:Fighter 10/Dervish 10/Shadowdancer 10?
i would take Fighter 12/Dervish 8/Shadowdancer 10

it hink the static bonuses of mastery and epic specialisation can be better then the Thousand Cuts
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Re: Lost in decisions - need advice on a build.

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A solution has been found, thank you Pyro. :)


Rogue enchanter arcane trickster dervish.

First levels arent so bad (early combat expertise) then it got ugly for a while, but so far the AC is very helpful.

Why enchanter school? It fit the roleplay, not the most powerful school due to the lack of the good stuff when it come to spells ahem.
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