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Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:16 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
So I finally rolled a Wizard (pure caster, not a gish) and I was wondering what should I use in my weapon slot? I'm at high teen levels and using Staff of Magic Missiles (2 per use) which helps my summon a little against current crop of enemies, but I imagine it will become obsolete at epic level.
Should I get Wizard's focusing staff? That way I will get some extra spells per day and Intelligence bonus, or should I go with something else?
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:26 am
by DM Mouse
There's staves with unlimited uses/day now for a chunk of change and a variety of spells.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:35 am
by Deathgrowl
Higher levels? Crossbow/bow is nice. There are also those daggers in gullykin.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:59 am
by mrm3ntalist
AlfarinIcebreaker wrote:So I finally rolled a Wizard (pure caster, not a gish) and I was wondering what should I use in my weapon slot? I'm at high teen levels and using Staff of Magic Missiles (2 per use) which helps my summon a little against current crop of enemies, but I imagine it will become obsolete at epic level.
Should I get Wizard's focusing staff? That way I will get some extra spells per day and Intelligence bonus, or should I go with something else?
No weapon if you can. There is a bug, that if the mob you are attacking has deflection, your ranged attack spells, miss.
Else any weapon that gives you AC ( mainly deflection), saves etc will be useful since you can save an item slot. In turn, on the item slot you saved you can use an item with bonus spells, hp etc.
For example on my caster i am using 2 daggers. One with +4deflection and another with the TWD feat.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 3:51 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
Are there any deflection bonus weapons available in shops? +3 at least?
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:03 am
by mrm3ntalist
No they are not. They only drop as items from the random item generator. You can make an auction post. Someone might have one.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 4:08 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
Thanks for the advice mate, it's a sound one.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:32 am
by dzidek1983
for me the best pick is the +4 deflection AC staff from Soubar...
wizards dont have that amount of deflection AC from spells, and you save a spot from slots that can grant you spell uses and dont require you to unequip the weapon in several areas
its a pain belive me...
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 7:08 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
dzidek1983 wrote:for me the best pick is the +4 deflection AC staff from Soubar...
wizards dont have that amount of deflection AC from spells, and you save a spot from slots that can grant you spell uses and dont require you to unequip the weapon in several areas
its a pain belive me...
I checked it out, but it is only usable by Monk and it is worth 90000 or so. How much UMD do I need to use this anyways?
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 9:07 am
by Deathgrowl
11, 12 or 13. I never remember which one.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:29 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
Thanks!
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 12:43 pm
by mireigi
10 UMD for Wands, 13 for Cross Class Items.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:35 pm
by Hoihe
mireigi wrote:10 UMD for Wands, 13 for Cross Class Items.
But your Charisma is counted in the equation. Meaning 14 charisma lets you use them with just 11 UMD.
As for the money, try to hire a merchant. A character with very high appraise could easily shave off at least 10K.
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 1:36 pm
by Zanniej
Hoihe wrote:mireigi wrote:10 UMD for Wands, 13 for Cross Class Items.
But your Charisma is counted in the equation. Meaning 14 charisma lets you use them with just 11 UMD.
Sorry for going off topic, but is there any reason to go beyond 13 UMD then?
Re: Weapons for a Mage?
Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:48 pm
by mireigi
Zanniej wrote:Hoihe wrote:mireigi wrote:10 UMD for Wands, 13 for Cross Class Items.
But your Charisma is counted in the equation. Meaning 14 charisma lets you use them with just 11 UMD.
Sorry for going off topic, but is there any reason to go beyond 13 UMD then?
For most uses? No. However, if you want to be able to cast all scrolls without risk of failure, you should put more points into UMD as you need 25 + [Spell Level] to cast without failure, which means 34 UMD for 9th level scrolls.