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Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:02 pm
by bono_bob
I can seem to find quick answers throuhg search engines on here or google. I dont know why, but finding mechanics on NWN 2 seems harder than NWN 1. But anyhow, my question:
Do classes like dagger spell and, or Dragonslayer work with warlock. I know dragon slayer said invocations, does that mean they alone do and does it work for eldritch getting better?
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:09 pm
by bono_bob
also do warlocks require charisma for their invocations, the way a wizard needs int 17 for circle 7 spells?
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:44 pm
by Grimcheese
bono_bob wrote:also do warlocks require charisma for their invocations, the way a wizard needs int 17 for circle 7 spells?
Nah, Charisma just affects DCs and how well certain invocations work (e.g. Dark One's Own Luck).
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:45 pm
by NegInfinity
bono_bob wrote:I can seem to find quick answers throuhg search engines on here or google. I dont know why, but finding mechanics on NWN 2 seems harder than NWN 1. But anyhow, my question:
Do classes like dagger spell and, or Dragonslayer work with warlock. I know dragon slayer said invocations, does that mean they alone do and does it work for eldritch getting better?
Classes that officially give warlock progression here, also are supposed to give you eldritch blast progression. However, you will not get warlock feats (energy resistance, damage resistance increase, etc).
Charisma is not required to cast invocation. Charisma may be important depending on your choice of invocations, because it changes dc or strength of effect for some of them. You can, however, make warlock with 6 charisma, if you want. It will be playable, with the right invocations.
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:04 am
by bono_bob
OK thanks, so which classes actually do it? I'm not sure dagger spell does or not.
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:23 am
by Percy
I think dagger spell mage does. Also hellfire warlock (obviously).
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:01 am
by Steve
chambordini wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:34 am
I'm thinking dragonslayer...
Can someone confirm that Dragon Slayer gives Eldritch Blast progression for Warlock? I'll then update the Wiki with that info (currently, it does not specifically state this, while on nwn2db.com it does mention this...and I think it beneficial to our Player base to have more complete Class descriptions on the Wiki). Cheers.
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:31 am
by Music of Life
Last time I checked, dragonslayer progressed warlock blast dice normally (that was in 2017?). It's a very good prc for a melee warlock.
So I can confirm it progressed it normally then. Same for Daggerspell, Stormsinger and Hellfire. All of them I've had at some point or the other and they progressed it normally.
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:32 am
by Nemni
Steve wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:01 am
chambordini wrote: ↑Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:34 am
I'm thinking dragonslayer...
Can someone confirm that Dragon Slayer gives Eldritch Blast progression for Warlock? I'll then update the Wiki with that info (currently, it does not specifically state this, while on nwn2db.com it does mention this...and I think it beneficial to our Player base to have more complete Class descriptions on the Wiki). Cheers.
Yes dragon slayer counts. Gives (dragonslayerlevel + 1) / 2 in progression. Assuming that one picks warlock progression!
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:44 pm
by Steve
Thanks. Wiki updated!
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 6:45 pm
by Kanada
Might as well note that dragonslayer DR does not stack with warlock DR and in fact overwrites it, so you get shafted with a lower DR
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2019 8:12 pm
by Valefort
No reason it should overwrite it .. the DR types are different, dragonslayer DR is untyped DR. Warlocks get cold iron DR.
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:28 pm
by Kanada
It does though. There are multiple threads on it on this forum.
Blackman D wrote: ↑Fri May 20, 2016 11:14 pm
the DS DR breaks all other DR after you get the DR from DS if i remember right - any DR you had before DS should still work (like warlock class DR), yes its a bug, no idea if it can be fixed
someone else had the issue a long while back and im pretty sure he just ended up RCRing to get rid of something so it would work
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mrm3ntalist wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:59 am
Sylael wrote:mrm3ntalist wrote:
That is true. It was someone "Drogo" that had the same issue with Dragonslayer's DR and
Dark Premonition. He rcred his character.
Good to know. Thank you!
I am not saying you have to RCR. I think this was reported to the QC and will try to have it fixed. The problem is that all our focus is on sorting issues with the update, so fixing DS/DarkPremo might take some time
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:25 pm
by Valefort
Ok, will take a look.
Re: Classes that increase caster/invoker lvl for warlock
Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:53 pm
by Tsidkenu
Pretty sure it's because 'untyped' DR (eg, 3/- from Dragonslayer) always overwrites 'typed' DR even if the latter is higher (eg, 7/cold iron from a high level warlock). Seems to be higher in the DR priority scheme when taking damage.