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Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:17 am
by NeOmega
I am level 5, going on to level 6
at level 5 I have
8 diplomacy
4 lore
2 survival

I also have alertness, which was granted by the spirit shaman class, and iron will.

Of course, as a level 5 spirit shaman, have a caster level.

Non evil (true neutral)

Yet I cannot progress to harper agent. :/

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 4:45 am
by Tsidkenu
You missed the pre-req feats?

Feats: Alertness, Iron Will

[Edit] I appear to be blind... :lol:

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:02 am
by Rasael
There might be a Base Attack Bonus requirement to the class. Perhaps someone else knows?

You do appear to possess all the feats.

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:34 am
by Tsidkenu
I just tested in JEGS, the problem is Spirit Shaman spellcasting does not qualify. (Druid, cleric, bard, wiz and sorc all qualify though).

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 9:13 am
by NeOmega
bah, spirit shaman are the forgotten, broken class. :(

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 8:40 pm
by nesty
Speaking of the harper's agent. Would it be possible to apply Kaedrin's changes to it? Which means reducing feat requirements to one (Negotiator in PnP/Kaedrin but Alertness would also work great) and offering full spell casting progression.

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:13 am
by Eclypticon
Ya, we should do something about this. HA is one of the least used PrCs and SS needs more love.

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 12:47 am
by NeOmega
I don't think harper agent needs to be powered up. It is a great class to transition from spell caster to stealth, and I don't think two feats is that big of a cost. And it already has 4/5 spell casting progression.

BTW, I was FINALLY going to use the most useless PRC, Divine Seeker on this build. :/ (harper agent/divine seeker seems kind of like a good rp mix)

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:00 am
by Rasael
I will fix it and ping Luna to ask if he can update the server.

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2014 11:12 pm
by NeOmega
Rasael wrote:I will fix it and ping Luna to ask if he can update the server.
Thank you!!

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:26 pm
by NeOmega
Is it gonna be a while?

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 5:48 pm
by NeOmega
So I was building a sorcerer/spirit shaman, and got the requisites for harper agent, and when leveling was able to choose either harper progression sorcerer or harper progression spirit shaman, excited, I loaded my pure spirit shaman, and nope, still can't do it with pure spirit shaman.

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:47 am
by Rasael
NeOmega,

I haven't been able to look at it yet. My life got a bit busy recently. I haven't forgotten. In any case I do not think there would have been a quick update for it, at least not that I can promise. Perhaps in Januari or Febrary.

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:04 pm
by Empoweredfan
Isn't 'Harper Agent' in need of an arcane caster class? As far as I know, Spirit Shaman is a divine caster. . .

Re: Spirit Shaman leveling to harper agent not avialable

Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2014 12:12 pm
by DM Ioulaum
Empoweredfan wrote:Isn't 'Harper Agent' in need of an arcane caster class? As far as I know, Spirit Shaman is a divine caster. . .
The NWN2 wiki mentions only: "One level in a spell-casting class is required to become a Harper agent."

http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Harper_Agent

In D&D the class does not require a spell casting class at all. That's just what Obsidian implemented for NWN2 (Player's Guide to Faerûn, p. 58). I would say its fine to give it Spirit Shaman spell progression. We should also consider removing the caster requirement altogether.
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Alignment: Any nonevil
Skills: Diplomacy 8 ranks , Knowledge (local) (any one region) 4 ranks , Sense Motive 2 ranks , Survival 2 ranks
Feats: Negotiator
Special: The candidate must be sponsored by a member in good standing of the Harpers and win approval from the High Harpers.