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Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:00 am
by NeOmega
How does it work? Can it not be taken as a ranger favored enemy, and cost a regular level feat? I know I've seen it before as an option, but now it appears I can only take favored enemies (I assume because I am leveling to 10, hence no standard feat).

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:30 am
by Karond
It's a feat specific to rangers. It's not an ability that you get for free as you level up, like favored enemy. You need to spend an actual feat on it. You don't need to take the feat on a ranger level either.

While the game says it gives +3 dmg vs that favored enemy, it's actually +5.

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:50 pm
by NeOmega
Thanks, +5 might make it worth a full feat.

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:11 pm
by chad878262
Would be worth it if applied to all favored enemies, but unless you plan on exclusively fighting one type it's use will be intermittent. I believe in pnp it applies to all but nwn2 makes you take it for each FE, unless it's different on this server.

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:31 am
by AlfarinIcebreaker
It should be changed to all taken FE, but with lowered damage, like +2.

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:08 am
by NeOmega
AlfarinIcebreaker wrote:It should be changed to all taken FE, but with lowered damage, like +2.
actually, a pure ranger lvl 30 will have +6 versus 6 favored enemies, and Improved favored enemy (+5) would be pointless.

With 25 levels of Ranger, you get 5 favored enemies, with +5 damage, as if they all had improved favored enemy, so improved favored enemy is for if you want one enemy, and are willing to pay a full fat for that. It's really not great at all.

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:23 am
by mrm3ntalist
A lvl30 ranger gets 7 FEs. They get an FE at lvl1, lvl5 and 5 lvls after that

Re: Improved FAvored Enemy

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 1:47 pm
by Karond
NeOmega wrote:
AlfarinIcebreaker wrote:It should be changed to all taken FE, but with lowered damage, like +2.
actually, a pure ranger lvl 30 will have +6 versus 6 favored enemies, and Improved favored enemy (+5) would be pointless.

With 25 levels of Ranger, you get 5 favored enemies, with +5 damage, as if they all had improved favored enemy, so improved favored enemy is for if you want one enemy, and are willing to pay a full fat for that. It's really not great at all.
Forgive if I'm wrong, but it seems like you've missed that imp.favored enemy stacks with favored enemy damage. So a level 30 ranger getting +7 damage against his favored enemies, will get +12 damage against each enemy that the ranger has an improved favored enemy feat for. Then you can add in the mandatory bane of enemies (+2D6) to that as well, and the damage starts to look kinda good.