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just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:30 am
by pwdcrk1
Important things first : hi all! i'm a new player on this server and i rolled a Warlock build i'm been quite in love on other server i played but now starts my doubts ....
i downloaded the jeg's character builder v18 optimized for this server and tested my build ....
as i found out i noticed that even if not stated in the "customization post" it seems that the use of tenacious plague now breaks the invisibility ( undepowering that invocation a lot ) casted from walk unseen and even from retributive invisibility is that correct ?
also i noticed that the use of word of changing doesn't disable the quick cast menu but just blocks the blasts keeping the possibility of casting warlock buffs and AoE spells is that also correct ?
are there any other not noticed changes ?
thank you very much and see you in the UD
Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:54 am
by Karond
1.) Yes, and it should be. All offensive spells, except some charm ones, should break invisibility.
2.) This is a bug, and it's an offense against the rules to exploit. If you're in devil form, you should not be able to cast any spell. If you do so anyway, expect to be reported to the staff. So, try to avoid that. Most people use word of changing purely to tank and heal up. Wisdom based warlocks who takes a level 3 dip into monk in particular.
Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:49 am
by pwdcrk1
also : is craft wands not aviable for warlocks?
Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:25 pm
by Karond
pwdcrk1 wrote:also : is craft wands not aviable for warlocks?
They can't use invocations to make wands, it's that way by design since the game came out. An individual can make wands by using scrolls instead of casting spells, but they still need to have the actual "Craft Wand" feat to succeed. Warlocks are not given this feat, they must take it.
Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 12:51 pm
by pwdcrk1
Karond wrote:pwdcrk1 wrote:also : is craft wands not aviable for warlocks?
They can't use invocations to make wands, it's that way by design since the game came out. An individual can make wands by using scrolls instead of casting spells, but they still need to have the actual "Craft Wand" feat to succeed. Warlocks are not given this feat, they must take it.
i know that they can't make wands from invocations i'm used to make them from scrolls and use the wands to self buff my warlock but when i tried the build on the jeg's training module i wasn't able to select the craft wands feat so i was thinking it might been disabled in this PW for warlocks ....
nice to know that is still aviable to them

Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:18 pm
by Karond
I haven't tested that actually. It says 5th level spellcaster, and warlocks get level 4 "spells". So it's possible that they can't take craft wand.
Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:11 pm
by pwdcrk1
i promise last question :
since in devils shape from word of changing invocation a warlock who had multi classed with monk maintain the flurry od bowls ability and even the improved crits unarmed weapon i was wondering if in that shape it maintains even the ki strike ( magic ) from 4th monk level or if that was ignored once shifted
Re: just to clarify myself on some warlock modification:
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:02 pm
by Nachti
I dont see no reason why it should not work. It could be tested in jegs if you find an enemie with DR x/magic.