Palemaster Lore Question

[TheGracefulOne]

Hello,

Apologies if this isnt the right place in advance, Kinda new.

In respects to the palemaster PRC, As progression in the class itself would produce effects such as the skin hardening, Changing or otherwise adapting according to the rituals and intense necromancy focus is evident,

However at level 10 (Deathless Mastery of Critical hits and Sneak Attacks)

Is this a case of becoming almost undead itself? Or is it due to the vast augmentations that it has caused for such effects to happen?

Critical hits normally represent strikes in places such as the head, (Back in the old days of 2nd E on Baldurs gate 1 and dont wear a helmet, You get critted bad.), Neck, and other vulnerable areas.

Sneak attacks of course represents the same type of strikes, Albeit its attacking the flank of said palemaster.

So simply put:

~ Augmented enough so the skin is almost undead in quality?

~ "Transcended enough" to warrant being classified as undead and possibly with great amounts of roleplay (With a request) can become a canon sentient creature of the undead?

Reason why I ask is a very neat character concept that would enhance some lore into the server,

Thanks guys.

[Ghost]

Palemasters do not become undead, no. The longer description of Deathless Mastery is that the skin becomes partially mummified. As such, it's likely to cause the skin to be dry and pale/gray, but the palemaster is still very much alive.

[TheGracefulOne]

Palemasters do not become undead, no. The longer description of Deathless Mastery is that the skin becomes partially mummified. As such, it's likely to cause the skin to be dry and pale/gray, but the palemaster is still very much alive.

Awesome stuff, Is there much scope with prolonged roleplay in time to "Ascend" as such?

I know its probably an IC answer, Just testing to waters to see what potential can happen.

[Blackman D]

if you are trying to enter lichdom then its an rp thing, class doesnt particularly matter tho the majority of people who premeditate lichdom tend to favor PM

either way should you actually succeed your toon will get NPC'd

as for how long it takes, probably depends more on how much time and effort you put into it, pnp wise it will take a long while just to prep for it, also depends on the DMs, they wont say no but as far as if you need them for moving things along then they would need to review your attempts at whatever

[DM Eminence]

Only clerics and mages can become liches, as far as I am aware.

If your character has a goal to become a lich (a vampire or whatever) they will have to be permanently retired, as Blackman D stated.

If this is something anyone is interested in, we do need to discuss it and see what the best approach is. Timeframe we would be looking at is about a year, to show dedication to the character.

[TheGracefulOne]

Thats fair enough!

Thank you guys for the responses and I'll see what other concepts pop up in my head.

Also as a note, I think the feat craft wondrous item would be a prerequisite because of said reasons, though tis only my opinion!

Trying to find an interesting concept tailored to individual tastes can be a tricky one!

[DM Eminence]

The feat Craft Wondrous Items does nothing on this server as we do not have a crafting system.

[TheGracefulOne]

Oh gosh! So Craft Magical Arms and Armour isnt applicable too?

If thats the case I've eased the builds so much better!

[Blackman D]

right, you must be a caster to enter lichdom because preparation of the phylactery is personal only, i was referring more to you dont have to have PM to attempt such

and the crafting feats do not work no, but only wondrous would have been needed, my main wizard at the moment tho still has it for rp reasons, as she constantly makes phylacteries for other things as well as being able to assist others with the process since its one of her specialties

but if you are looking for a bit of a guideline as to the basics of it then you wanna take a look in libris mortis
http://forum.nwnights.ru/uploads/rulebo ... Mortis.pdf

as for the duration i can definitely say yea it will take a while, my main is a lich now and she wasnt premeditated at all, she was 3 yrs old and things were changing and basically everyone was leaving, certain people were already doing so before her 3 yr mark and she started thinkin about lichdom as a bit of a side note than a serious thing and then it became a well why not

and even though she was starting the process from when she first started thinkin about it, it still took almost another full year from when she decided to do it for it to actually be finished

but man did she go out with a bang, blew up half a district in BG

[TheGracefulOne]

my main is a lich now and she wasnt premeditated at all, she was 3 yrs old and things were changing and basically everyone was leaving, certain people were already doing so before her 3 yr mark and she started thinkin about lichdom as a bit of a side note than a serious thing and then it became a well why not

and even though she was starting the process from when she first started thinkin about it, it still took almost another full year from when she decided to do it for it to actually be finished

but man did she go out with a bang, blew up half a district in BG

Thats awesome! Haha.

Thank you & the other people with the quick and informative responses.

[thids]

Unarmed liches have a touch attack that deals 1d8+5 negative energy damage. D-does that mean... they heal when they touch themselves?

Only clerics and mages can become liches, as far as I am aware.

Apparently any spellcaster with CL11 can become a lich. They are just most often wizards or sorcerers and sometimes clerics, everything else is rare.

[Steve]

Time and Immortality

Those creatures fanatical enough to actually seek undeath strive to escape the bonds of mortality and thereby gain a term of existence far beyond their natural life spans. Such mortals often presume that this gift of extended time comes without a price. They hope that by having no temporal limits on their life spans, they will be able to accomplish all of their dreams and visions.

The living spend their time living life and gathering experience, thereby shaping their personalities and adjusting to the world as it changes around them. In contrast, the undead mind sees the passage of time very differently. Undead exist, they do not live. Life means change, and while undead endure over time and learn new facts, they rarely change or appreciate new paradigms. Aside from a rare few exceptions, an undead's outlook remains stagnant over the decades, or centuries, of its existence, despite new experiences and new situations it may encounter.

This inflexible mental nature is the reason many ancient undead seem insane. In fact, they may merely be operating with goals and aspirations that are slightly out of step with the present world. Unfortunately, like any ambition that cannot be swayed by reason or tempered by changing circumstances, the goals of the stubborn immortal undead become a cankerous evil that can only be excised. While a living creature may accept compromise when life hands it a new challenge, undead can rarely do anything other than what they have always done.

Do read up on Undead. It's very nice to know. I think some people should read up on the Undead a bit more...but that's another story.

[Blackman D]

Unarmed liches have a touch attack that deals 1d8+5 negative energy damage. D-does that mean... they heal when they touch themselves?

would depend i suppose, tho most things dont attack themselves even in states of confusion or rage so likely not

vampires have a touch attack that heals them when they deal damage, i would have to check the MM again but im pretty sure its their bite attack so im sure its not the same as liches, a lich would probably share a vampires claw attack tho which does level drain, but again, would have to check the MM to see what property is actually attached to their claw attack

[The Whistler]

[Steve]

Fixed it for you Whistle-kins: