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The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 9:44 pm
by Caelin
RP Background: Duncan is a grizzled old sellsword, a follower of the Red Knight. He's seen more than his share of battles, and traveled the realm putting himself in service to those who can both pay and whose cause is just. I originally envisioned him as a very balanced warrior, and tried to build him to allow for maximum flexibility (to allow him to use a variety of tactics in combat as per his Red Knight beliefs). As such he was a Rogue/Fighter/AnnointedKnight/OOBI. However frankly I'm frustrated at how seemingly frequently the OOBI class seems to have stuff be disabled/fiddled with, and I realize that his rogue levels aren't really as fitting RP wise as I'd like.

So I've got three possibilities I'm working with here. The goal is to get high saves, Fighter 12 to maximize damage with his beloved Warhammer, and be a fairly capable and self sufficient warrior. I really like the idea of the Bodyguard levels in two of the builds because of the RP aspects - having those protective abiltiies fits with his sellsword RP (guarding a merchant or nobleman, for example).

That said, here are my test builds:

http://nwn2db.com/build/?225123

http://nwn2db.com/build/?225128

http://nwn2db.com/build/?225130

Any feedback is much appreciated!! There might be some small feat errors or the like so by all means if you notice them point em out!

Re: The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:13 pm
by mrieder79
I would recommend that you try to put some more points toward CON.

Perhaps consider trying to get steadfast determination and toughness. I always find those feats mechanically helpful.

You may consider ending more of your stats on odd numbers as +3 items are not impossible to get. Dex and Con would be most relevant to this build, it seems.

If you are going to sword and board, you also may consider a shield specialization feat, heavy or tower depending on your preference. It's a nice bit of extra AC.

I generally lean away from the iron will/lightning reflex feats. You will be getting extra saves with Divine champ, so you might be able to drop them without significant harm to your saves. This would open up slots for toughness/steadfast or more ac feats.

Re: The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:46 pm
by Caelin
mrieder79 wrote:I would recommend that you try to put some more points toward CON.

Perhaps consider trying to get steadfast determination and toughness. I always find those feats mechanically helpful.

You may consider ending more of your stats on odd numbers as +3 items are not impossible to get. Dex and Con would be most relevant to this build, it seems.

If you are going to sword and board, you also may consider a shield specialization feat, heavy or tower depending on your preference. It's a nice bit of extra AC.

I generally lean away from the iron will/lightning reflex feats. You will be getting extra saves with Divine champ, so you might be able to drop them without significant harm to your saves. This would open up slots for toughness/steadfast or more ac feats.
That's an interesting thought re: steadfast determination. I think I like it :)

I actually have a collection of shields for him, including a +4 tower, so I was going to avoid shield specializations as I have options if I need to up his AC suddenly. I don't have my hands on many +3 attribute items. In fact the only one I have right now is a +3 wis ring that will probably go to my monk.

Also Iron Will is required for Annointed Knight levels.

Re: The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:33 am
by Theodore01
As you go with a shield, consider Man at Arms as an good option to up your defense. Would fit that bodyguard theme also.

Definitely more Con and Steadfast.

And we have a lv30 classlimit here, so there are more possibilities ;)

Re: The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:42 am
by mrieder79
Ah. I missed the AK in the last build. Thought they were all DC. If you take 4 AK, you get toughness for free and definitely should take steadfast. Also, If you take AK, then spellcraft is a class skill. If you take Able learner somewhere, you can raise spellcraft to 30 to give you an additional +6 saves vs spells. This is very useful if you can fit it into your build.

Additionally, Heal is also a class skill for anointed knight. A well armored fighter with maxed heal skill is very durable in combat.

Re: The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:29 am
by Caelin
Theodore01 wrote:As you go with a shield, consider Man at Arms as an good option to up your defense. Would fit that bodyguard theme also.

Definitely more Con and Steadfast.

And we have a lv30 classlimit here, so there are more possibilities ;)
Yeah but I tend to stop playing my characters much when they hit 20-21. I've got a 21 monk and a 22 bard. I'm just being realistic :D

Re: The RCR of Duncan Thorne (Input Wanted)

Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 4:34 pm
by grunts
Whether this fits your character I'm not sure but you'd be very surprised how versatile a strength ranger is. Get 4 levels of fighter and go full armor(mithril full plate ideally) with a tower shield.

Choose archery style and pull monsters with a manyshot/one shot from stealth with the manliest composite bow you can find(some allow +8 str). Throw on your sword and shield and beat it down with your 28 strength. Or take off the shield if you dont need the ac and do high damage with 2 handed power attack on favored enemies. A ton of that ranger skill/spell goodness with 24 levels for protective ward.