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Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:16 pm
by chad878262
Bought this Armor at auction today... Base Armor +7 (Half Plate) enchantment bonus +1 should equate to +8 Armor. However, as the screenshots show, equipping the armor increases AC from 15-22 (+7). Casting Shadow Conjuration - Mage Armor only adds additional 3 AC, which makes me think the +1 is working, but for some reason the armor is only giving me an AC of 6, instead of 7... However, it is strange because I get a message that I have multiple items giving the bonus that doesn't stack, however as the screenshots show I am not wearing anything else...


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Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:22 pm
by mrm3ntalist
What is your char's Dex.

You know, you dont have to visit the fugue to test out the armor :D

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:25 pm
by chad878262
it's so lovely this time of year! :P

character dex is 12, has LoH as well and +2 from Tumble... so I am thinking he somehow has a +1 EB to armor on him in error...really strange. no spells are active and no other items equipped so not sure where the bonus is coming from?

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:43 pm
by mrm3ntalist
chad878262 wrote:character dex is 12,
Put a +2 Dex item and see what happens

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:55 pm
by chad878262
makes armor class increase to 23... Dex goes to 14 +2.

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:23 pm
by Blackman D
max dex bonus is how much of your dex gets added to AC

if you dont have the max then you dont get it added, thats all that you were seeing

on that same note getting a +3 dex mod would do nothing for you in that armor since it exceeds the max

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:54 pm
by chad878262
I am aware of that, but look at the numbers, dex mod should not matter, the Base AC for Half-Plate is 7, the armor has +1 EB for a total of 8. Naked AC was 15, equipping the armor made AC go to 22 which is only an increase of 7 and seems inaccurate. (15+7+1=23)

However, the chat log is saying there is another bonus that won't stack (which is odd since I had no spells active nor was I wearing any equipment besides the armor. I have LoH, 12 Dex and 22 Tumble so base AC should be 14, not 15 I would think. It appears the game was giving me a +1 Armor Enhancement Bonus, does not matter since I cast Mage Armor regardless, but it is strange, nonetheless.

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:00 am
by Blackman D
right, teaches me to write on stuff when my head hurts :P

anyway have you tried taking it off and relogging

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:08 am
by Steve
chad878262 wrote:character dex is 12, has LoH as well and +2 from Tumble...
Doesn't this equal 14 Base armor class then? 10 + 1 (LoH) + 2 (tumble) + 1 (DEX). 14 + 7 (mith armor) + 1 (AC bonus = 22.

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:22 am
by illithid
Ooh Stevie Wonder wins!

You've probably got the old *cough cough* item property residue bug going on, when you equip and unequip does the base drop to 14?

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:24 am
by Blackman D
well thats why he would need to take it off and relog, leaving and coming back generally clears those glitches

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:48 am
by mrm3ntalist
illithid wrote:Ooh Stevie Wonder wins!

You've probably got the old *cough cough* item property residue bug going on, when you equip and unequip does the base drop to 14?
:twisted:

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:07 am
by chad878262
Steve wrote:
chad878262 wrote:character dex is 12, has LoH as well and +2 from Tumble...
Doesn't this equal 14 Base armor class then? 10 + 1 (LoH) + 2 (tumble) + 1 (DEX). 14 + 7 (mith armor) + 1 (AC bonus = 22.

To be fair I did say I thought the base ac should be 14.. in any case I didn't consider the item property bug sticking so that probably explains it. Thanks all, much appreciated!

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:31 pm
by Steve
chad878262 wrote:To be fair ...
:lol: There is nothing about NWN2 that is fair! The AI cheats, it is full of bugs and they included Favored Souls! :lol:

In general, there is a guideline of "don't trust the Character Sheet," because it is notorious for bugging out and showing weird numbers (and if the Server is lagging, even worse).

Anyway...nice armor! 8-)

Re: Mithral Half-plate giving wrong armor bonus

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:09 pm
by TheKai
This thread was fun to read :)

Le sigh, I miss this place