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Ability Focus (bard songs) and Stormsinger ?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:40 pm
by predrag
Well if the title wasn't enough , can anyone please tell me does this feat work with Stormsinger powers ?

I know the Realms of Trinity wiki claims it does but this isn't the same server , it might be implemented differently .

The bgtscc wiki lists only the bard songs cloud mind and fascinate (identical to the in-game description) as affected but I figured there is a chance the description wasn't updated assuming the PRC came in after the feat .

Re: Ability Focus (bard songs) and Stormsinger ?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:50 pm
by Hoihe
Realm of Trinity wikipedia says they do. Dunno if it applies to BG, but likely.

Re: Ability Focus (bard songs) and Stormsinger ?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:27 pm
by Karond
I don't think they apply at all. Ability focus only applies to stuff that doesn't do damage. Pretty much all of the stormsinger's abilities do damage save for gust of wind.

Re: Ability Focus (bard songs) and Stormsinger ?

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:59 pm
by Hoihe
http://nwn2-realms-of-trinity.wikia.com ... ard_Songs)

Specifics: Add +2 to the DC for all saving throws against the chosen ability.

Affected songs: Cloud Mind, Fascinate, Inspire Slowing, Song of Severance, Song of the Planes, Song of Severance, and Stormsongs(Gust of Wind, Thunderstrike, Call Lightning, Winter's ballad, Great thunderstrike, Storm of Vengeance)

Dunno if it's custom on their website

Re: Ability Focus (bard songs) and Stormsinger ?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:59 am
by predrag
Well , thanks for the answers .

Guess it's plan C , levelup to take feat than find and plead a DM for delevel if it doesn't work .

I'll post the results here for future inquiries after :ugeek: .

Edit : For future reference , Ability Focus (bard songs) does what is written in it's description and only that .

Re: Ability Focus (bard songs) and Stormsinger ?

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:56 am
by Stonebar
Also from my understanding spell focus and the like does not work with Stormsingers powers either, as they are not spells directly, but songs. Extraordinary like innate powers. My understanding is mechanically while they mimic spells they are a triggered ability not a wizard or cleric spell. Likely any other feat that enhances spells does not work.
For example I brought it to the attention of Luna a long time back that the song that mimics call lighting was not improved the way the server does the spell. Luna had to alter that stormsinger power to match. If game mechanic wise it was a spell, it would not need to be altered as the game would recognize it and have already made the adjustment.