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Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:28 am
by TheKai
Duster47 wrote: As for PRC requirements w.r.t. old Lore (#7), those probably need to be looked at too.
Thank you again Duster47!
After exhausting all options (resting, relogging, loading level 7 spells in my book then resting and relogging) I think this may be what is stopping me from taking the Archmage PRC after triple verifying I have met the requirements, having Spell Focus Illusion, Spell Focus Transmutation and Skill Focus: Spellcraft along with Lore 15 and Spellcraft 15.
Unless I am the only having this issue :/ which means ill RCR again and quadruple check everything as I level.
In the mean time, is the Archmage feat able to be granted by a DM? After DM verification of course.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:49 am
by doctorsimon4
I am also having the same issue, have all the requirements 100%. I think the issue is something to do with giving you the feature to be able to access the archmage class.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:56 am
by Duster47
Requirements in SRD for Archmage are here.
If this is not what is
reflected in the IG description, or you meet the description and it is not taking, then we probably have a problem behind the curtain. Or used another Lore source.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 9:59 am
by TheKai
knowledge of 5th-level or higher spells from at least five schools.
Ill check this and report
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:05 am
by TheKai
TheKai wrote:knowledge of 5th-level or higher spells from at least five schools.
Ill check this and report
No, not this
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:33 am
by Calodan
Is there a Lore issue with Hierophant? I have started taking LORE RELIGION on a PC for that and I was wondering how does this PRC measure the lore skill? Can I take 5 of three different lore's and be at 15? Or do I have to register 15 in one lore skill? Or does it have to be BASE LORE? So many questions..........
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:22 am
by Moltrazahn
I would belive that you want the lore which represents the old lore skill. Given that the classes are made with that specific skill in mind... you want to keep to that train of thought in your builds.. at least till all classes are reworked to the new lore system/variants. I know the Dev team is skilled. But I don't think they edited all the prestigeclasses to accept x-number of any/all the new skills. So which ever one of the lore-skills is "the original" one.. go with that. Just to be on the safe side.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 11:40 am
by mrm3ntalist
Calodan wrote:Is there a Lore issue with Hierophant? I have started taking LORE RELIGION on a PC for that and I was wondering how does this PRC measure the lore skill? Can I take 5 of three different lore's and be at 15? Or do I have to register 15 in one lore skill? Or does it have to be BASE LORE? So many questions..........
Only the main Lore works as a prereq for PRCs needing lore.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:21 pm
by doctorsimon4
TheKai wrote:TheKai wrote:knowledge of 5th-level or higher spells from at least five schools.
Ill check this and report
No, not this
Likewise, i too know spells from 5 schools above 5th level. I also took standard lore so it is not that too, seems to be something on the servers end.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 12:35 pm
by Lockonnow
well it didt Work i was RCR my arcmage couse so i could see the new feat and i couldt be a archmage Again there somethign wrong there
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:47 pm
by Duster47
mrm3ntalist wrote:Calodan wrote:Is there a Lore issue with Hierophant? I have started taking LORE RELIGION on a PC for that and I was wondering how does this PRC measure the lore skill? Can I take 5 of three different lore's and be at 15? Or do I have to register 15 in one lore skill? Or does it have to be BASE LORE? So many questions..........
Only the main Lore works as a prereq for PRCs needing lore.
I do not believe though that the long-term plan is to use old "Lore" (Skill #7) for qualifying PRCs for whatever they require. Instead, each will need to be checked/revised to use the PnP or more rationale Knowledge/Lore skill appropriate for PRC. Such as Archmage should certainly be Lore - Arcana (what was #7). But preachy-type PRCs would use Lore - Religion.
As I mentioned in another thread, this Lore-thing is a work-in-progress. What is IG now is a building block foundation for future expansion.
Re: Lore Skill for PRCs
Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 5:03 pm
by Duster47
Subject: 6Mar2016 UPDATE BUG REPORT THREAD
Rhifox wrote:Not necessarily a bug but...
Spirit Shaman only has Lore: Arcana as a class skill.
According to pnp, it should have Lore: Geography, Lore: History, Lore: Local, and Lore: Nature as class skills.
Meanwhile, Favored Soul has
every Lore as a class skill, when according to PnP it should only have Lore: Arcana.
Ranger has Lore: Dungeoneering and Lore: Geography. According to PnP, it should also have Lore: Nature.
Warlock has every Lore as a class skill. In PnP, it is only supposed to have Arcana, The Planes, and Religion.
Swashbuckler has Arcana, Religion, and The Planes. In PnP it is not supposed to have any Lore skills as class skills.
++++ RESOLVED +++++
Updated 2DAs to match the above. For now subject to further review by DM/QC Team. Some classes are more documented than others. FS sure seems wanting for Religion to me. Curious, we were running Stock Spirit Shaman 