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C&C and amplify have been changed. They are DC based nowBoddynock wrote:This spell appears to do nothing at all, whether I select an effect in the options before casting or use the drop down menu. It does force nearby targets to make a will save for some reason.
So, amplify is a lvl 1 DC based spell on one of the lowest DC casters in the game, even if they go full CHA? And they have to fail a DC for me to transmute my own ears? It's a self target transmutation spell, that makes no sense at all whatsoever. How was it envisioned that this would work?mrm3ntalist wrote:C&C and amplify have been changed. They are DC based nowBoddynock wrote:This spell appears to do nothing at all, whether I select an effect in the options before casting or use the drop down menu. It does force nearby targets to make a will save for some reason.
Amplify is a Save for half spell, like most of the spells and closer to pnpBoddynock wrote:So, amplify is a lvl 1 DC based spell on one of the lowest DC casters in the game, even if they go full CHA? And they have to fail a DC for me to transmute my own ears? It's a self target transmutation spell, that makes no sense at all whatsoever. How was it envisioned that this would work?mrm3ntalist wrote:C&C and amplify have been changed. They are DC based nowBoddynock wrote:This spell appears to do nothing at all, whether I select an effect in the options before casting or use the drop down menu. It does force nearby targets to make a will save for some reason.
We also need patience.Boddynock wrote:Save for half makes sense. This is why we need patch notes, people are reporting changes and not bugs.
Why?LISA100595 wrote:They should be changed back.. just my opinion.
When in doubt, report. We can sift the "its meant to be like this" outBoddynock wrote:Well, we have been asked to help report problems. I'm trying to help, but I am not sure what is working as intended and what is not. Speaking of, now about to make a new thread about aberrant claw...
Well in the case of bards, we get a small selection of spells and can't cast them very often. That has always been the other side of the coin for bards in regards to their spells. Get good spells, never can cast enough of them. Changing a level one spell into a DC spell is the same as saying it will always be cut in half unless the person is so far below you in level it wouldn't matter anyway. And as for amplify, it is a bard only spell, so it is a slap in the face to a class that gets trumped by a single "Energy Immunity: Sonic" or getting caught in a silence without joyful noise already going. Let bards keep their strengths when their weaknesses are already so glaring and not going away. (And let's not mention that sonic immunity isn't breachable, and Bard's don't get mords without a PrC that has a significantly smaller cap than a real mords.)mrm3ntalist wrote:Why?LISA100595 wrote:They should be changed back.. just my opinion.
You are the first i know, speaking about bard weaknesses... How do you justify a +20 on a important mechanical skill?Boddynock wrote:Well in the case of bards, we get a small selection of spells and can't cast them very often. That has always been the other side of the coin for bards in regards to their spells. Get good spells, never can cast enough of them. Changing a level one spell into a DC spell is the same as saying it will always be cut in half unless the person is so far below you in level it wouldn't matter anyway. And as for amplify, it is a bard only spell, so it is a slap in the face to a class that gets trumped by a single "Energy Immunity: Sonic" or getting caught in a silence without joyful noise already going. Let bards keep their strengths when their weaknesses are already so glaring and not going away. (And let's not mention that sonic immunity isn't breachable, and Bard's don't get mords without a PrC that has a significantly smaller cap than a real mords.)mrm3ntalist wrote:Why?LISA100595 wrote:They should be changed back.. just my opinion.