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duracele
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Aasimar Sorcerer

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So i put together this...
http://nwn2db.com/build/?238187

I find it very difficult to make a build involving classes not present in nwn2db.
This one is Sorcerer, ASoC, Blood Magus, Archmage.
Wizard would be Bloodmage. Spirit Shaman is ASoC (as i don`t get the skill focus i would get with Blood Magus). Dark Lantern respectively is Archmage.
I am not certain about the spell focus feats. Evocation and necromancy just seemed the most destructive to me. In epics i would trade in 2 gr charisma for 2 epic spells (hellball and vamp feast i guess).
Where are the sweet spots to end for the PrC`s. With ASoC i would like to go 10 level but doubt it`s worth it but 5 for quicken spell should be minimum. I don`t have any experience with the other PRC`s.
Lastly what about starting stas?
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Re: Aasimar Sorcerer

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Eldricht knight is the usual substitute for bloodmage (both provide skill focus concentration). Frostmage for archmage.

The thing about your build is more class distribution. Going up to level 17 sorcerer only gives your familiar more HP. It's far better to get like 6 sorcerer, 10 bloodmage, 10 arcane scholar, 4 archmage.

If you're going the DC route, you really want to get spellcasting prodigy too. It's like +2 charisma, so it will give you more spells and so on, which is much better than luck of heroes. Also, why not end charisma with that last ability point turning it into 32? One more DC there too with eagle's splendour.
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Re: Aasimar Sorcerer

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Good advice from Karond. You really want to keep Sorcerer levels to 6. That's it. You don't get anything else by investing more. I'd also recommend 10 levels of Arcane Scholar in 99% Sorcerer builds. With the remaining 14 levels you can pick what you think suits your playstyle the best.

You will have a hard time properly portraying Blood Mage Aasimar, IMO. Actually Human is not much worse off for a Sorcerer build because you get an Extra feat and +2 skill points per level, both of which Sorcerers are starved.
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The only reason to go more than 6 levels of sorcerer is if you want epic spells. Then you need 1 more sorcerer level for each epic spell you plan to pick. Why?

Because of a bug in the game, if you pick epic spells not on a sorcerer level you'll have a DC of 25+int modifier instead of the 25+cha modifier as you should get.

If you go human, use the extra feat on practiced spellcaster. Sure, it will only give +1 CL, but with the build I mentioned that means a CL of 29+1 (practiced spellcaster)+3 (bloodmage) +2 (archmage) = 35. So it gets one more DC than the aasimar from CL, but one less from charisma. The only thing you really lose is unfortunately a level 9 slot unless you get a +4 CHA item :(
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Another option is skipping Archmage. Saves you some slots, and allows you to specialize in one school better. Like, instead of spell focus evocation, pick greater spell focus necromancy. 6-7 sorcerer, 10 bloodmage, 10 arcane scholar, 3-4 X.

As for X, consider something like 3 levels of ranger if that fits. Gives you toughness, allowing you to take practiced spellcaster. You end up with +1 CL this way, track and a ton of skillpoints (listen as class skill). You could also go warlock, for dark one's own luck and +4 dexterity (switching greater spell focus for practiced spellcaster).
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I don`t count on finding a +4 charisma item. I end uneven on char, having a +3 item will save me a slot in level 2 spells.
I have sorc 8 arch 6 blood 6 and ASoC 10 considering the bug karond mentioned there are 2 levels sorc in epics.
on level one martial would be replaced with spellcasting prodigy. Spell penetration would be replaced by spellfocus necromancy.
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Re: Aasimar Sorcerer

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You are starting this the wrong way. First you need to decide what spell you are going to use. Eg blasting spells or DC spells. Then you can build accordingly. Trying to have both, will only result in being mediocre.

Sme advice.
- Since you get BM ( why not? it is the most powerful prc EVER ) it only makes sense to have a 4thPRC just to not let that PSC go to waste. Because you need to end with 30CL in order to 30 +1Blood component + 2bloodseeking spell + 2AM spellpower = 35CL +2DC ( thank you very much ).
- Karonds advice is the clever way to go. PM can also help with more AC and PM5 saves if you decide to go that far.
- Extend spell? On a sorcerer? Why? That is why they are spontaneus casters. Because they can actually cast a spell again... and again.... and again. Try it. You will save a feat.
- Archmage. The holy grail fr sorcerer, whenter a blaster or DC. Dont listen to anyone about it. Just take it. +2Spellpower, Mastery of elements ( no need to try to figure what kind of orbs, flame arrows, wall of fires to use. Just do it on the fly... because you are an ARchmage ). More importantly SLAs. With so many spells being added it is tough to fit all spells on every level. I had a problem on level7. AM solved it. Shadow Shield as SLA and energy immunity, Avasculate, Finger of death FTW.
- Finally, the most common reason sorcerers RCR is spell selection. With 100%RCR you should already have been rcring now. Make certain you got it right before the RCR goes away, because it will go away.
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Statement on spells is valid. I got experience with sorc though. What would be a replacement for focus evocation?
Here i am definitely after DC. That don`t mean not considering IGMS as a pick.
Why stop at 4 with BM? The 6th level gives additional 2 DC and level 7 prevents the loss from casting if i understood the feats correctly. Mastery of elements would be sweet. I would go 6 sorc 6 bm 8 am 10 asoc. But that would mean loosing epic spells.
I don`t worry about ac. thought about eds and armored caster but that would definitely mean a blaster.
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Re: Aasimar Sorcerer

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Every sorcerer with 3 Arcane Scholar levels is a good blaster by default. You don't really need to plan around it other than choosing spells wisely. The real choice is whether you want HIPS or not :p
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