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A few suggestions

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:11 am
by Yhztro
1. remove the breach spells and Mordenkainen's Disjunction, they are making buffing characters obsolete. They were removed in 3.5 and for good reasons.
2. Apply the fix for the sorc/wiz shield spell so it doesnt stack with the shield, it adds just too much survivability.
3. Seems that monk fist damage increase doesnt work while using a shield even tho i couldnt find anything stating that it shouldnt work.
4. Imo Hierophant adds a bit too much for that Harm, maybe tune it down a bit to an empowered version...

Re: A few suggestions

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:44 am
by chad878262
Yhztro wrote:1. remove the breach spells and Mordenkainen's Disjunction, they are making buffing characters obsolete. They were removed in 3.5 and for good reasons.
I disagree...This would make CL30 completely undispellable. With the dispel fix I can see removal of Breach, perhaps, but If Mordenkainen is removed the cap on Greater Dispel would need to be set to 30 so that a CL30 caster can still dispel another CL30 caster. Note that this will also make CL21 caster have a chance to dispel CL30. The calculation of greater dispel is CL + d20 with a max CL of 20 vs. DC 11 + CL. So currently a CL30 PC cannot be dispelled with a Greater dispel (20 + 20 = 40 vs. DC 11+30 = 41). Not saying this can't/shouldn't be done, but it would honestly just increase the disparity between CL 25-29 builds vs. CL 30 builds which based on community feedback might be a bad idea.
Yhztro wrote:2. Apply the fix for the sorc/wiz shield spell so it doesnt stack with the shield, it adds just too much survivability.
It doesn't stack. A heavy shield adds 2 AC. A heavy shield +4 adds 6 AC. The shield spell is a magical bonus, so you can have a Heavy Shield with no EB and casting shield will give a total of 6 AC. However, if you have a Heavy Shield +4, which grants 6 AC the only thing the shield spell will do for you is grant immunity to magic missile since the 4 AC from the spell won't stack with the EB of the Shield +4
Yhztro wrote:3. Seems that monk fist damage increase doesnt work while using a shield even tho i couldnt find anything stating that it shouldnt work.
Pretty sure Monk abilities are not supposed to work with armor or a shield. Someone more qualified can confirm as I'm not entirely sure, but honestly seems "wrong" to me for a Monk to be fighting with hands and feat while trying to wield a shield.
Yhztro wrote:4. Imo Hierophant adds a bit too much for that Harm, maybe tune it down a bit to an empowered version...
Haven't tested this, but maybe others can opine as to if they agree.

Re: A few suggestions

Posted: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:03 pm
by Rhifox
Dispels are part of DnD. Buff spells are not supposed to be 100% immune to counters.

Re: A few suggestions

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:18 am
by Yhztro
1. breach component from disjunction is what i was taking about.
2. My mage friend tested the shield spell today and it does stack with the shield enhancement bonus.

Other things:
- It seems that weapon enhancement counts for mages touch attacks, for my cleric it doesnt.
- Azuth's spell shield seems a bit too much
- Anyspell and Greater Anyspell arent working, i would have been happy if at least anyspell would've been active as Greater Anyspell seems a bit strong.