Instruments
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Boddynock
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Instruments
With the addition of so many new spells recently, I think it is time to add some new instruments to the loot table. And maybe add different tiers for them, the same as other items, like an Epic Austruth Flute that has mass cure serious, instead of moderate, or more uses per day, or something. I don't know, just seems that we have an alarming lack of variety for musical instruments, and even fewer of the ones we do have are useful for anything.
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Boddynock
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Re: Instruments
Actually, I am all for removing the bard requirement from instruments altogether...
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Re: Instruments
The Horn of Liam's flatulence! A sound no one wants to here!
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Boddynock
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Re: Instruments
How DARE you?! You left out stinking cloud!chad878262 wrote:The Horn of Liam's flatulence! A sound no one wants to here!Casts Sound Burst 1/day, casts contagion 1/day
Sorry, couldn't help myself...
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Boddynock
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Re: Instruments
On a more serious note, adding instruments themed after more well-known bards on the server isn't a bad idea.
Appraising touch is a new spell, right? And Endelyon is a bard after all. Lore wise bards do tend to garner the attention of the masses, which instrument crafters might try to cash in on.
"Endelyon's Harp:
Casts Appraising Touch, 1 use/day
Casts Charm Person, 1 use/day"
And to round off that classic Elly style, probably needs to add +1d6 backstab as well
Appraising touch is a new spell, right? And Endelyon is a bard after all. Lore wise bards do tend to garner the attention of the masses, which instrument crafters might try to cash in on.
"Endelyon's Harp:
Casts Appraising Touch, 1 use/day
Casts Charm Person, 1 use/day"
And to round off that classic Elly style, probably needs to add +1d6 backstab as well
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Re: Instruments
Add a Pipa for the Eastern instruments!
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- Nomster
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Re: Instruments
There are no magical harps/lyres on the server...
If we can make a list (being serious), it is easier to show this to QC and finding someone willing to make these items thus a much higher chance of them being added to a merchant or just the loot table.
They can not be too powerful. RP fluff has a higher chance to be added but I personally feel that it is pointless to add useless spells to items (such as Charm Person/Monster or whatever). Even some musical instruments with stats/skills would be nice but I am not sure how QC would feel about that. I cannot see +2 on things being that big of an issue. A musical instrument takes up both hand slots and cannot be used to hit anyone with...
((IE a sword+shield or double wielding those fancy rapiers with perform is always better for a bard than to wield than an instrument)).
If we can make a list (being serious), it is easier to show this to QC and finding someone willing to make these items thus a much higher chance of them being added to a merchant or just the loot table.
They can not be too powerful. RP fluff has a higher chance to be added but I personally feel that it is pointless to add useless spells to items (such as Charm Person/Monster or whatever). Even some musical instruments with stats/skills would be nice but I am not sure how QC would feel about that. I cannot see +2 on things being that big of an issue. A musical instrument takes up both hand slots and cannot be used to hit anyone with...
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Boddynock
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Re: Instruments
I'm didn't make this for powerful instruments, but rather variety and something to use. I mean, honestly, out of all the instruments in the loot table, you ever only really see people use the Canaith Manadolin and the Austruth flute for healing.
They should be pwerful enough that people use them, but not so pwerful that they feel at a disadvantage without them. This was, however, a serious suggestion. So, if you have ideas, list them here.
Edit: I'll start...(Once in mind, I suggest these also with the suggestion that bard not be required for instruments. It should just be perform. You can be a musician without being a bardn and a combination of UMD and perform should let you use these...)
Stormsinger's Thunderdrum
Gust of Wind 1/day
Chain Lightning 1/day
Protection from Arrows 1/day
Airball 1/day (after some though, that seems a bit much for an instrument, replaced with next line)
Mass blindness/deafness 1/day (still powerful, but will have low DC, and could simulate the flashbang effect of a lightning strike)
Dissonant Timbre
Duel Ward 1/day (I think that is what it is called)
Silence 1/day
Lesser Spell Mantle 1/day
Assay Resistance 1/day
They should be pwerful enough that people use them, but not so pwerful that they feel at a disadvantage without them. This was, however, a serious suggestion. So, if you have ideas, list them here.
Edit: I'll start...(Once in mind, I suggest these also with the suggestion that bard not be required for instruments. It should just be perform. You can be a musician without being a bardn and a combination of UMD and perform should let you use these...)
Stormsinger's Thunderdrum
Gust of Wind 1/day
Chain Lightning 1/day
Protection from Arrows 1/day
Mass blindness/deafness 1/day (still powerful, but will have low DC, and could simulate the flashbang effect of a lightning strike)
Dissonant Timbre
Duel Ward 1/day (I think that is what it is called)
Silence 1/day
Lesser Spell Mantle 1/day
Assay Resistance 1/day
Liam the Golden
Illdraen, Guerilla Skirmisher of Sshamath
Guy "Knife-Ears" Masterson
Boddynock Namfoodle, Illusionist Extraordinaire! (temporary leave of absence, again)
"Liam the Golden, so I have heard,
Yet truly none can polish a..." - Ameris Santraeger, 2016
Illdraen, Guerilla Skirmisher of Sshamath
Guy "Knife-Ears" Masterson
Boddynock Namfoodle, Illusionist Extraordinaire! (temporary leave of absence, again)
"Liam the Golden, so I have heard,
Yet truly none can polish a..." - Ameris Santraeger, 2016
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Boddynock
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Re: Instruments
Master's Lute
+6 Perform
+4 Bluff
+2 Charisma
-2 Dodge Armor Class
-4 Move Silently
-4 Hide
+6 Perform
+4 Bluff
+2 Charisma
-2 Dodge Armor Class
-4 Move Silently
-4 Hide
Liam the Golden
Illdraen, Guerilla Skirmisher of Sshamath
Guy "Knife-Ears" Masterson
Boddynock Namfoodle, Illusionist Extraordinaire! (temporary leave of absence, again)
"Liam the Golden, so I have heard,
Yet truly none can polish a..." - Ameris Santraeger, 2016
Illdraen, Guerilla Skirmisher of Sshamath
Guy "Knife-Ears" Masterson
Boddynock Namfoodle, Illusionist Extraordinaire! (temporary leave of absence, again)
"Liam the Golden, so I have heard,
Yet truly none can polish a..." - Ameris Santraeger, 2016
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NeOmega
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Re: Instruments
I'd love to see instruments that require perform skill checks of level requirement. Will never happen I am sure, may not even be possible.... ...but would be neat.
Most instruments I see at the moment have too many spells uses in them, so they are quite useless by the time you reach the level to use them.
Most instruments I see at the moment have too many spells uses in them, so they are quite useless by the time you reach the level to use them.
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NegInfinity
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Re: Instruments
Bumping this up.
I've run into situation where non-bard needed a mundane flute that can be played, and was lacking UMD skill for that.
Would be nice to have mundane unenchanted non-bard instruments in the shops or in loot table.
I've run into situation where non-bard needed a mundane flute that can be played, and was lacking UMD skill for that.
Would be nice to have mundane unenchanted non-bard instruments in the shops or in loot table.
- Nomster
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Re: Instruments
You can use DMFI tools to use a VFX instrument. Although I agree that a simple instrument should not be class restricted.
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Re: Instruments
I just want a Lute with perform, gief please!
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