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Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:03 pm
by chad878262
Probably would never play this (anything over ECL 1 tends to be too much for me), but I find it interesting so figured I would ask for feedback from all of you...

What it gets:
Level 6 Cleric Spells (1 more level than needed, but no better alternatives as far as I could tell)
HiPS
Epic Dodge
Blazing Aura

What it loses:
Monk goodies after 13 (DR 10-/Magic, self concealment, most importantly Adamantine Fists)
Decent stats (Min/Max kinda required to qualify for Epic Dodge and Blazing Aura)
Caster Level (easily dispelled, unless Hips is timed perfectly...)
Leveling (ECL 3 AND an XP penalty in Epics...OUCH!)

Gives up a lot (IMO) to get HiPS, but it's interesting still since HiPS is a very powerful ability to have... Thoughts?

http://nwn2db.com/build/?239421

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:31 pm
by Steve
Abomination!!!

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:52 pm
by Snarfy
I don't think it will qualify for Epic Dodge since SD is different on BG than on the builder(no defensive roll at 5th SD I believe).

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 5:59 pm
by chad878262
@ snarfy. Monk 25/SD 5 qualifies for defensive roll so no reason this shouldn't.

Thanks Steve, tell me how ya really feel, don't hold back :p. Lol

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:24 pm
by joleda
I can't find it because the info it is buried in some obscure thread and impossible to find, but...

Deep Gnomes are ECL 2 due to not geting the Slippery feat.

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 6:29 pm
by chad878262
joleda wrote:I can't find it because the info it is buried in some obscure thread and impossible to find, but...

Deep Gnomes are ECL 2 due to not geting the Slippery feat.
http://nwn2db.com/build/?239421

The link...it was originally a Drow, changed it to deep gnome

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:54 pm
by zyztem
Excuse my noobiness, but do drow even have the concept of monk/sf ?

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:32 pm
by chad878262
There is no rule against Drow monks, but I did change the race to deep gnome, regardless...

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 4:49 am
by Zanniej
Steve wrote:Abomination!!!
Snarfy wrote:I don't think it will qualify for Epic Dodge since SD is different on BG than on the builder(no defensive roll at 5th SD I believe).
chad878262 wrote:@ snarfy. Monk 25/SD 5 qualifies for defensive roll so no reason this shouldn't.

Thanks Steve, tell me how ya really feel, don't hold back :p. Lol
Grumps and Gramps to the rescue! ( you guys can figure out who's who :twisted: ) Isn't it nice you can always count on them for feedback on your builds, Chad? ;-)

EDIT: Paints a target on his forehead

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:16 am
by Thorsson

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:38 am
by chad878262
Thorsson wrote:Unique huh? http://nwn2db.com/build/?31616
Hmm...sorry Thorsson, I searched for the class split and I searched for epic dodge with level 5 casting and blazing aura and this did not come up.

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 7:40 am
by Thorsson
Search doesn't work that well on Feats I've found.

No idea how it would work on BGTSCC, but I tried it out before BGTSCC started and I found it hugely survivable, but maybe a little lacking on the damage front.

Re: Unique Monk/Sacred Fist concept

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 10:45 am
by chad878262
chambordini wrote:you don't wear armor because with that str even some boots might be cumbersome...
Bulls Strength, problem solved...

I did say it has some weaknesses and I avoided XP penalty as much as possible. Grey Orc doesn't work due to INT too low to get the required skills for all the PRC's. I only posted because I THOUGHT it was unique, but Thorsson has cured me of that inaccuracy... :P