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Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:08 am
by sir_blacksoutalot
I'm sure this question has been asked hundreds of times by now, which is why it's so tough to find a clear answer when doing a search. So...once again...for the thousandth time: Is there a max skill level for UMD on our server, beyond which point it's no longer of any use whatsoever to invest more points? Please pardon my redundant inquiry.

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:50 am
by Blackman D
about 29

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:53 am
by Calodan
After going to the Vault of the Dead last night it useless from the start.......I got dispelled two or three times every level and burned through thousands of gold coins. I know there is an effort to balance out the amount of dispels but that was ridiculous as I also got breached two or three times as well as the dispels. :cry:

So IF UMD were useful you need 29 points in it according to Blackman. However since the new dispel fix it is being balanced out and well still is out of balance and UMD is pretty useless.

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:01 pm
by Sylael
Calodan wrote:After going to the Vault of the Dead last night it useless from the start.......I got dispelled two or three times every level and burned through thousands of gold coins. I know there is an effort to balance out the amount of dispels but that was ridiculous as I also got breached two or three times as well as the dispels. :cry:

So IF UMD were useful you need 29 points in it according to Blackman. However since the new dispel fix it is being balanced out and well still is out of balance and UMD is pretty useless.
UMD is still very useful..like for equipping class items for example

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:07 pm
by Calodan
UMD is still very useful..like for equipping class items for example
Right but you only need a max skill of 15 for that. However anything else is far too expensive for its use and then you have to think what this does to roguish builds who almost depend on UMD for their ability. For that matter a spear build as well. For my PC even being a Favored soul wielding a spear is not exactly worthwhile without some UMD to up my damages since a spear is subpar.

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:10 pm
by sir_blacksoutalot
After going to the Vault of the Dead last night it useless from the start.......I got dispelled two or three times every level and burned through thousands of gold coins. I know there is an effort to balance out the amount of dispels but that was ridiculous as I also got breached two or three times as well as the dispels.
Thanks guys, but I'm confused about this reference to dispels. Would you mind elaborating on how the new dispel mechanic affects the use magic device skill? Ten years into NWN2 and I still find new stuff to learn every day.

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:13 pm
by Calodan
Thanks guys, but I'm confused about this reference to dispels. Would you mind elaborating on how the new dispel mechanic affects the use magic device skill? Ten years into NWN2 and I still find new stuff to learn every day.
Okay so prior the game took your PC Level for the level of the spells that were cast through UMD on yourself for dispel checks. Now the dispel check is proper according the caster level of the scroll so basically a dispel and greater dispel are now useful since they can now dispel any and all scrolls you can use on yourself.

Re: Max UMD skill?

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:15 pm
by sir_blacksoutalot
Oh. Youch.