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Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:41 am
by Dagesh
I was reading a post and I got to thinking, why not have the character builders post the stats for popular builds in one thread? This way we could all see the raw numbers for things like AC, AB, CL, and the like. I think this would provide a boon for builders to see what the stats are. This thread is not for debating what build is uber awesomezorz. Also consider that many of the stats can be for folks with great gear, not the regular newb.

Feats/Skills/Traits that add AC:
Luck of Heroes +1
Armor Skin +1
Size, Small +1
Tumble +1 every 10 ranks

Ranger Stats[table]
[th][/th][th]BASE AC[/th][th]BASE ARMOR[/th][th]ARMOR BONUS[/th][th]BASE SHIELD[/th][th]SHIELD BONUS[/th][th]DEX BONUS[/th][th]DODGE BONUS[/th][th]NATURAL ARMOR BONUS[/th][th]DEFLECTION BONUS[/th][th]SIZE BONUS[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]TOTAL[/th][tr][td]AC w/o buffs[/td][td]+10[/td][td]+5 (Mithral BP)[/td][td]+4 (Bracers)[/td][td]+0 (Dual Wielder)[/td][td]+0[/td][td]+5 (Mithral BP)[/td][td]+4 (Boots)[/td][td]+4 (Amulet)[/td][td]+4 (Ring, etc.)[/td][td]0 (human)[/td][td]-[/td][td]-[/td][td]36[/td][/tr][tr][td]AC w buffs[/td][td]+10[/td][td]+5 (Mithral BP)[/td][td]+4 (Bracers)[/td][td]+0 (Dual Wielder)[/td][td]+0[/td][td]+5 (Mithral BP)[/td][td]+4 (Boots)[/td][td]+5 (Barkskin)[/td][td]+4 (Halo)[/td][td]0 (human)[/td][td]-[/td][td]-[/td][td]37[/td][/tr][/table]

Ranger Specific AC Feat:
Protective Ward (+1 Dodge AC at level 6, +2 at 24)
[table]
[th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th]TOTAL[/th][tr][td]AB[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][/table]

Bard Stats[table]
[th][/th][th]BASE AC[/th][th]BASE ARMOR[/th][th]ARMOR BONUS[/th][th]BASE SHIELD[/th][th]SHIELD BONUS[/th][th]DEX BONUS[/th][th]DODGE BONUS[/th][th]NATURAL ARMOR BONUS[/th][th]DEFLECTION BONUS[/th][th]SIZE BONUS[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]TOTAL[/th][tr][td]AC w/o buffs[/td][td]+10[/td][td]+8 (MFP)[/td][td]+4 (Bracers)[/td][td]+1 (Light Shield)[/td][td]+2[/td][td]+3 (MFP)[/td][td]+4 (Boots)[/td][td]+4 (Amulet)[/td][td]+4 (Ring, etc.)[/td][td]0 (human)[/td][td]-[/td][td]-[/td][td]{+4} (SoH*)[/td][td]{+4} (Inspire Defense**)[/td][td]40 {48}[/td][/tr][tr][td]AC w buffs[/td][td]+10[/td][td]+8 (MFP)[/td][td]+4 (6) (MA/IMA)[/td][td]+1 (Light Shield)[/td][td]+4 (Scroll)[/td][td]+3 (MFP)[/td][td]+4 (Boots)[/td][td]+4 (Amulet)[/td][td]+4 (Ring, etc.)[/td][td]0 (human)[/td][td]-[/td][td]+1 (Haste)[/td][td]{+4} (SoH*)[/td][td]{+4} (Inspire Defense**)[/td][td]43 (45) {51 (53)}[/td][/tr][/table]
NOTE: Bards receive Tumble as a class skill giving another potential 3 AC

*Song of Heroism (Lasts 30 seconds) **Cannot be used with AB Inspiration soloing & Assuming at least 15 levels of Bard [table]
[th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th]TOTAL[/th][tr][td]AB[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][/table]


Favored Soul Stats[table]
[th][/th][th]BASE AC[/th][th]BASE ARMOR[/th][th]ARMOR BONUS[/th][th]BASE SHIELD[/th][th]SHIELD BONUS[/th][th]DEX BONUS[/th][th]DODGE BONUS[/th][th]NATURAL ARMOR BONUS[/th][th]DEFLECTION BONUS[/th][th]SIZE BONUS[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]MISC[/th][th]TOTAL[/th][tr][td]AC w/o buffs[/td][td]+10[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]0 (human)[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][/tr][tr][td]AC w buffs[/td][td]+10[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]??[/td][td]0 (human)[/td][td]??[/td][td]0[/td][td]??[/td][/tr][/table] [table]
[th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th][/th][th]TOTAL[/th][tr][td]AB[/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][td][/td][/tr][/table]


If someone would simply post the raw numbers, others could format it into an easy to read table as above.

edit: Working on table a bit more. Will tidy later.

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 12:00 pm
by Aurali
Just a comment that I think you are referring to mithril breastplate for the 5 AC and 5 dex bonus. Mithril full plate is medium armor and would disable ranger combat styles.

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 3:31 pm
by Dagesh
Aurali wrote:Just a comment that I think you are referring to mithril breastplate for the 5 AC and 5 dex bonus. Mithril full plate is medium armor and would disable ranger combat styles.
It was from a different post that I'm getting those things although I suppose it was based on Mithral Breastplate and not MFP. Mostly it's a starting point for stats on different classes. Best thing to do you start w/ Bard, FS, and the like.

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:13 pm
by YourMoveHolyMan
Bracers add armor ac, not shield ac

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 4:38 pm
by Dagesh
YourMoveHolyMan wrote:Bracers add armor ac, not shield ac
Ah, right. 10-4

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:37 pm
by Aurali
Let's see if I can post for a strength bard.

Bard:

Base 10
MFP 8
Dex 3
Bracers or Mage Armor 4 (w/ Improved Mage Armor 6)
Deflection 4 (ring, helm or belt +4)
Natural 4 (amulet +4)
Dodge 4 (boots +4)
Luck of Heroes 1
Haste 1
Tumble 3
Shield 3 (light shield w/-5% asf and +2 shield AC)
Armor Skin 1
Total 46 (48 w/ IMA)

Can use temporary song of heroism for 4 more AC. Could also multiclass as Pale Master for 4 more. Could also use shield scroll or wand with UMD for an additional 2 AC. And if really needed could use a 5 or 6 AC inspiration.

Will edit with AB later

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:26 pm
by Dagesh
Updated

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 12:05 am
by Dagesh
This may help a bit more.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

I recommend looking at the bard, especially.

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:56 am
by Duster47
I suggest you include a note about the +4-to-AC items (e.g. boots, amulet, ring/helm/cloak) are rare; as-is MFP. Getting such stuff requires huge amount of gold and willing trading partner, time-invested, and/or mega-ball-winner-level of lottery luck with random loot drops.

A more useful list would be to include routinely available store-bought gear and/or items routinely available on Mudd's Consignment Shop.

Otherwise, you're just playing to the 1% of the player base who might someday get this stuff, while the other 99% who either, a) pine for something they will never get, or b) enjoy the game more for the RP and team-play aspects than solo-steamrollering the server.

Re: Just The Stats, Sir

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:33 am
by Dagesh
Duster47 wrote:I suggest you include a note about the +4-to-AC items (e.g. boots, amulet, ring/helm/cloak) are rare; as-is MFP. Getting such stuff requires huge amount of gold and willing trading partner, time-invested, and/or mega-ball-winner-level of lottery luck with random loot drops.

A more useful list would be to include routinely available store-bought gear and/or items routinely available on Mudd's Consignment Shop.

Otherwise, you're just playing to the 1% of the player base who might someday get this stuff, while the other 99% who either, a) pine for something they will never get, or b) enjoy the game more for the RP and team-play aspects than solo-steamrollering the server.
I can add another group for regular +2-3 items for something more normal. I listed on the FS and Ranger sheets that this is assuming ridiculous loot. Adding a realistic section makes sense.