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Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:20 pm
by Dagesh
This spell last for 12 seconds for arcane casters. 12 seconds.
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For Rangers it's 6 seconds/CL.
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Consider how druids have almost the same spell at 1 minute/CL.

Could this be updated to at least 6 seconds/CL for arcance casters?

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:08 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Dagesh wrote:This spell last for 12 seconds for arcane casters. 12 seconds.
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For Rangers it's 6 seconds/CL.
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Consider how druids have almost the same spell at 1 minute/CL.

Could this be updated to at least 6 seconds/CL for arcance casters?
This was brought up before and got denied. I dont know if others feel different now with the dispel fix, but i think it should stay as is.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:25 pm
by Dagesh
I did a search for it and couldn't find any topics. What's the reason for leaving it?

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:30 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Dagesh wrote:I did a search for it and couldn't find any topics. What's the reason for leaving it?
Arcane gishes.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:53 pm
by Dagesh
As you mention, the dispel stuff is fixed. Not to add more for QC to consider but perhaps they could add this to the list?

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:57 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Dagesh wrote:As you mention, the dispel stuff is fixed. Not to add more for QC to consider but perhaps they could add this to the list?
Sure, i ll post your suggestion in the QC forums

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:00 pm
by Dagesh
I appreciate that. Thank you.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:10 pm
by Dagesh
I'd like to add, maybe it doesn't do as much damage for arcane. Perhaps 1d4 or even 1d3. Maybe there's other options. Thank you again.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:03 pm
by BigJ
This spell last for 12 seconds for arcane casters. 12 seconds.
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For Rangers it's 6 seconds/CL.
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Consider how druids have almost the same spell at 1 minute/CL.

Could this be updated to at least 6 seconds/CL for arcance casters?
Hi,

I -think- the main issue with this is GMW. Wiz / Clerics can take ANY weapon (Ie no EB) that already has elemental damage on it and make it a +5 weapon. Ranger / Druid / shamans don't have GMW, but can take any +3/4 weapon they find IG and add 1d8 damage to it.

What you change for one you'll have to change for all (Ie. Give ranger / druid GMW), so a little more to the equation than just extend the duration for wizards. Then factor in UMD'ers using the scrolls I suppose too? (druid scrolls are harder to find).

They may also wait to see what the new enchanting system will do also.

Not saying anything for/against, just saying it may take some time.

BigJ

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:02 pm
by NeOmega
I think 1d8 is way too much. Perhaps call it lesser, and make it 1. at fourth level make it blades of fire (or frost) and make it 1d4, and for a sixth level spell, make it 1d8.

Then it should have the same duration for all classes, at 1 round/level.

As it is now, a level 2 spell is making druid weapons twice as powerful as the end result of a level 10 warrior of darkness/anointed knight/dragon warrior. I realize they get the high BAB, but druids get a whole spellbook on exchange for medium BAB.

In fact, it seems a lot of the new spells are overpowered. But this one in particular I just ran across playing a druid today, and thought I would make the suggestion to weaken it.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:20 am
by Shad
How people want to give all classes equal abilities. Make then one single class with few different names and feats description. Perfect equality perfect dullness.

Its good the way it is. Advantages balances disadvantages. gmw balances flame weapon, etc.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:45 pm
by dedude
I would like to make an appeal for this spell as well. It is meant as a short duration 1-2 fights spell, just like for example divine favor for clerics. Maybe add a max duration to it, like 10 rounds or something to keep it in check if you feel that is needed.

The current duration of 12 seconds really makes it quite unusable. Half that time is generally wasted on lag, meaning you might get 1-2 chances for a hit. And this is after "wasting" a round to cast the spell.

No reason to compare this to druids flame weapon, which is long duration and can buff party members and summons. This is caster only.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 3:33 pm
by Dagesh
*BUMP*

I would like to additionally bump the idea of dropping the damage amount and have the duration 1 round/level for arcane casters.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 5:05 pm
by Steve
12 seconds is 2 rounds.

Maybe it could be adjusted to function like True Strike (instantaneous) or like Righteous Smite, the Divine spell, which gives you a Feat with a 60 sec cooldown usage.

Re: Blades of Fire

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:43 pm
by Dagesh
Steve wrote:12 seconds is 2 rounds.

Maybe it could be adjusted to function like True Strike (instantaneous) or like Righteous Smite, the Divine spell, which gives you a Feat with a 60 sec cooldown usage.
Almost anything is better than 12 seconds.