automatic quicken spell epic feats

[sobebop]

are the feats available here?

automatic quicken spell epic feats (0-9)?

[Deathgrowl]

Well... Yes. At least I think so.

You won't be able to build in a way to get more than up to level 3, though. Or maybe 4, but I don't know that.

[DM Narshe]

I think only 0-3 even exists by default through the NNW2 original engine.

Anything more would be custom.

[mrm3ntalist]

Auto quicken feats exis but only for levels 1 to 3 ( three different epic feats for each level ).

[khaevil]

They exist up to 9 by default.
By taking classes that allow a bonus feat you can higher, but normally there are only two feat slots at levels that allow autoquicken.
As it is only allowed at level 27+ due to the spellcraft 30 requirement, and there are only 3 classes that have a valid bonus feat (wizard, red wizard, and divine champion.) Since you can't fit a level of red wizard, wizard, and 3 levels of divine champion in a 4 level span you can get up to autoquicken 5 on this server.
If Kaedrins were implemented here either scout or loremaster would let you get to 6. There may be another class that allows it here that I'm unaware of.

Divine champion is probably the most overplayed, but never player correctly, class in the game. Doing this is pretty much screaming "I'm a power gamer and the setting can suck it."
Though on a server where everyone is fluent in both dwarven and elvish, but doesn't speak the native tongue of their homeland, I doubt anyone will care.

[khaevil]

I should clearify:
There is a concept that I could see that build for. Like some red wizard zealot of kossuth, though even that seems really shaky. I've just never seen it done by anyone who wasn't doing it just so they could get autoquicken 5.

[sobebop]

"I will allow this."

[khaevil]

Hey, I'll admit I made a loremaster, redwizard, divine champion of oghma who was obsessed with knowledge. But I designed the build so I could get autoquicken 6, I didn't come up with the concept and was like "Oh hey, I can get autoquicken 6!" Though I did try to role-play it the best I could.

Just taking red wizard and spending a red wizard and wizard bonus feat late will get you to 4, which with a spell mantle, a breach, and since your a red wizard and probably okay with evil spells ENERVATION, 4 is a pretty big deal. 5 gives interposing hand. 6 Of course you get grasping hand, flesh to stone, greater missile storm, yeah 6 rocks. If you don't want to be one of those nasty red wizards then you'll have to go with divine champion. By ending with 3 levels of divine champion and a level of wizard you can still get autoquicken 5.

[khaevil]

I checked the 2da files and though you can take autoquicken here up to 9 as a regular feat, you can't take anything past 3 as a bonus feat for wizard, red wizard, or divine champion.

So on this server you can only get up to 4.

I just couldn't rest until I checked that. I hate giving out bad info.

[sobebop]

appreciate the info! was debating automatic quicken or great ints. my build would get up to 3 on auto quicken, so i think ill just grab great ints.

[Convolutedline]

will skill focus count towards prereq of gaining auto quicken say at level 24 instead of 27? [I've never taken a skill focus feat.]

[Tsidkenu]

You cannot get more than Autoquicken III because IV-IX cannot be chosen as (bonus?) feats by players. They can only be added to monsters by builders/dms.

Theoretically you can but actually you can't.

And no Skill Focus does not count, only base ranks (level 27+).

[Sun Wukong]

You cannot get more than Autoquicken III because IV-IX cannot be chosen as (bonus?) feats by players. They can only be added to monsters by builders/dms.

Theoretically you can but actually you can't.

And no Skill Focus does not count, only base ranks (level 27+).

I actually loaded up my stock Vordan's Hero creator and made a character in accordance of this server's multiclassing rules. A human Wizard 10/Red Wizard 10/Divine Champion 4/Eldritch Knight 6 - and I was able to get Automatic: Quicken Spell IV. What I discovered was how the Red Wizard bonus feat did not allow me to get epic metamagic feats by default. This contradicted the earlier statements and therefore I returned to the old drawing board and came up with this build: A human Wizard 15/Divine Champion 6/Eldritch Knight 9 - and again I could not get more than Automatic: Quicken Spell IV - even though I had another Divine Champion feat to spare.

Thus, you can indeed spam Auto Quickened Enervations if you just choose to build for that effect.

Heh, this game is ancient I still learn new things about it! (This laughter no way means that I have dicovered new ways to doom you all, DOOOM YOU ALL!!!)

[Convolutedline]

Hahahahaha ;D

[Convolutedline]

Huge problem with this feat..

Because the spell failure thing that was implemented - can't cast two spells in a row - ever x.x

it totally ruins auto quicken