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*Moderator Edit* Steadfast Determination Question
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 3:57 pm
by Theodore01
got steadfast determination on last levelup.
However Umber hulks confusion was vs mind (will) save
and also the carrion crawler paralyse was vs. will save.
(in the log it used the much lower will value and not the fort. value with the save roll.)
Re: steadfast no longer working ?
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 5:39 pm
by Blackman D
steadfast doesnt change saves it changes the stat you use for will, instead of wisdom you use con
Re: steadfast no longer working ?
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:31 pm
by Theodore01
(yes, i know how it worked all the years)
but the numbers in the log matched my wis score.

Re: steadfast no longer working ?
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 6:37 pm
by Blackman D
ok, thats a bit easier to understand
tho screen shot would help
Re: steadfast no longer working ?
Posted: Sun May 22, 2016 9:55 pm
by Blackman D
tried on my dwarf, will save 22 with steadfast, rolled a base 24 will against a tiger's howl (+2 racial vs spells)
so not sure what issue you are having without seeing a screenie

Re: steadfast no longer working ?
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 7:11 pm
by Theodore01
After some more testing, it turns out it works well !
And i did
not know how it worked
@Blackman thxs & sorry for the bother.
All the years i wrongly assumed, it would use fort.saves instead of will saves,
but it's only the Con. modifier instead of Wis. modifier.
Re: can be deleted ! (steadfast working?)
Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 8:32 pm
by kellendril
I'll leave this here, but lock it down. Its good information that could help others if they search the feat.