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Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:55 am
by Nyeleni
I know the ruling about animal language was final but this should give some of you pause:
Goats, sheep and cows could challenge dogs for title of ‘man’s best friend’
And this youtube about Alex, who was dearly missed, when he passed.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:18 am
by Lux
Amazing.

It would be good if these kind of things got more attention in society.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 8:56 am
by TarnishedSoul
Wow!! Great post, Nyelini. I enjoyed both the article and the amazing video about Alex the Parrot.

Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:08 am
by Karond
I clicked on this topic fully expecting the title to be followed by "but people are!". Left disappointed

Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:09 am
by Maximvs
To convert it into Nwn statistics, animals got lots of wisdom, not intelligence. Look at this.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:37 am
by Nyeleni
LOL, what is the difference between intelligence and wisdom in RL? It is using the same brain.
And before you start, yes, I know what the difference between intelligence and wisdom is. But if you look at it like a scientist, both are much more intertwined than dnd makes us believe.
Karond wrote:I clicked on this topic fully expecting the title to be followed by "but people are!". Left disappointed

You're a lost cause to cynicism, Thorsson

Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 10:31 am
by TarnishedSoul
Another great video, Maximvs! It's really amazing what animals can accomplish.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:45 am
by Shamshir
Balaam, the Donkey, and the Angel
22 God’s anger was kindled because he was going, and the angel of the Lord took his stand in the road as his adversary. Now he was riding on the donkey, and his two servants were with him. 23 The donkey saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road, with a drawn sword in his hand; so the donkey turned off the road, and went into the field; and Balaam struck the donkey, to turn it back on to the road. 24 Then the angel of the Lord stood in a narrow path between the vineyards, with a wall on either side. 25 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it scraped against the wall, and scraped Balaam’s foot against the wall; so he struck it again. 26 Then the angel of the Lord went ahead, and stood in a narrow place, where there was no way to turn either to the right or to the left. 27 When the donkey saw the angel of the Lord, it lay down under Balaam; and Balaam’s anger was kindled, and he struck the donkey with his staff. 28 Then the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey, and it said to Balaam, ‘What have I done to you, that you have struck me these three times?’ 29 Balaam said to the donkey, ‘Because you have made a fool of me! I wish I had a sword in my hand! I would kill you right now!’ 30 But the donkey said to Balaam, ‘Am I not your donkey, which you have ridden all your life to this day? Have I been in the habit of treating you in this way?’ And he said, ‘No.’
31 Then the Lord opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of the Lord standing in the road, with his drawn sword in his hand; and he bowed down, falling on his face. 32 The angel of the Lord said to him, ‘Why have you struck your donkey these three times? I have come out as an adversary, because your way is perverse before me. 33 The donkey saw me, and turned away from me these three times. If it had not turned away from me, surely I would by now have killed you and let it live.’ 34 Then Balaam said to the angel of the Lord, ‘I have sinned, for I did not know that you were standing in the road to oppose me. Now therefore, if it is displeasing to you, I will return home.’ 35 The angel of the Lord said to Balaam, ‘Go with the men; but speak only what I tell you to speak.’ So Balaam went on with the officials of Balak.
36 When Balak heard that Balaam had come, he went out to meet him at Ir-moab, on the boundary formed by the Arnon, at the farthest point of the boundary. 37 Balak said to Balaam, ‘Did I not send to summon you? Why did you not come to me? Am I not able to honour you?’ 38 Balaam said to Balak, ‘I have come to you now, but do I have power to say just anything? The word God puts in my mouth, that is what I must say.’ 39 Then Balaam went with Balak, and they came to Kiriath-huzoth. 40 Balak sacrificed oxen and sheep, and sent them to Balaam and to the officials who were with him.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:39 am
by fearknight2003
Nyeleni wrote:Karond wrote:KAROND wrote: I clicked on this topic fully expecting the title to be followed by "but people are!". Left disappointed

You're a lost cause to cynicism,
Thorsson 
Sorry, this is obnoxious I know, but I noticed this and my first thought was 'I must be the first one to comment on it'
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 7:35 am
by Moltrazahn
Some animals are super smart! like my cat.
It will Miav when it wants Inn.
It will Miaw when it wants Out.
It will Miaw when it says good morning.
It will Miaw when it says hello.
It will Miaw when it wants food.
It will Miaw when it is thirsty.
It will Miaw when it wants to be luved.
It will maul my hand off when its subtly suggesting that it's done being loved.

(This is not my cat, this is internet-cat)
I love my cat

Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 8:20 am
by Thorsson
fearknight2003 wrote:Nyeleni wrote:Karond wrote:KAROND wrote: I clicked on this topic fully expecting the title to be followed by "but people are!". Left disappointed

You're a lost cause to cynicism,
Thorsson 
Sorry, this is obnoxious I know, but I noticed this and my first thought was 'I must be the first one to comment on it'
Well, it's fair in that I could have written it. I think that Karond and I share a number of similar views, even if we also differ on a number...
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 9:20 am
by Nyeleni
LOL wasn't intentional but still fitting.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:02 am
by TheLier
I luv my cat, but he is dumb.
He has thick black and grey fur and he still goes out sunbathing when it is about 40 C....
That is cat-stupid.
Moltrazahn wrote:Some animals are super smart! like my cat.
It will Miav when it wants Inn.
It will Miaw when it wants Out.
It will Miaw when it says good morning.
It will Miaw when it says hello.
It will Miaw when it wants food.
It will Miaw when it is thirsty.
It will Miaw when it wants to be luved.
It will maul my hand off when its subtly suggesting that it's done being loved.

(This is not my cat, this is internet-cat)
I love my cat

With that, I must agree.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:27 am
by Nyeleni
Moltrazahn wrote:Some animals are super smart! like my cat.
It will Miav when it wants Inn.
It will Miaw when it wants Out.
It will Miaw when it says good morning.
It will Miaw when it says hello.
It will Miaw when it wants food.
It will Miaw when it is thirsty.
It will Miaw when it wants to be luved.
It will maul my hand off when its subtly suggesting that it's done being loved.

(This is not my cat, this is internet-cat)
I love my cat

Hm, wrong. It's not his or her fault you aren't able to read the subtle changes of each miaw.
Re: Animals aren't as dumb as many think
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:04 pm
by Moltrazahn
What is it you think as wrong in that statement? :p The miaws are different, and shows communication skills. I happens to agree that Animals know more than what (some) people give them credit for.