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What is the lore behind the bhaalspawn? (Spoilers)

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:00 pm
by xLegionx
It's been a very long time since I've played the game and I can't remember if anything I'm about to say could be related to spoilers just to let everyone know in case they are or will be playing the bg saga. Ye hath been warned. . . ;)
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One thing I've always loved about bgtscc is the fact that its based around one of my all-time favorite childhood games: the bg saga and the legend behind the bhaalspawn. Since I have experienced the story behind my main character and traversing the dangerous coast killing Sarevok, Jon Irenicus, and Melissan as they each attempt to steal my character's divinity, aside from reading up on Bhaal, who is my favorite god in dnd, I never was able to really find any lore behind some of the questions I had about the history behind the saga and answer some of the questions that have been lingering around my mind for a while such as. . .

"When exactly does Bhaal foresee his death and how does he foresee it?"

"When you die the bhaal essence within scatters to the wind and adds to Bhaal's return. How exactly would this enable him to return on his own? Aside from anyone being able to make themselves a god would Bhaal not need help from his servants to return? Or does he just magically appear back in his plane?"

"When a bhaalspawn dies does he or she essentially not travel to any form of afterlife? Or if they say, for example, served Malar then they join him in his realm in the afterlife for example."

"When you are a bhaalspawn, from my understanding you are technically evil right off the bat. Since you can play as a good character in the actual game is there any lore that could explain how one over comes his in-borne nature to become good?"
Does anyone know the answer to these or a book one can read to learn about the facts?

Re: What is the lore behind the bhaalspawn? (Spoilers)

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:07 pm
by Nyeleni
You certainly read here and here?

1. Ask Alaundo. If we go by the date Alaundo arrived in Candlekeep 75 DR, Bhaal must have known it at least by then.

For 2. My assumption is that once only one Bhaalspawn remains Bhaal will be reborn in that vessel. So, it wouldn't be exactly a good thing to be the last one standing :). But I have no idea on how Bhaal actually returned.

3. They would be transferred to the realm of their god? Or to the wall if they didn't believe in gods I guess. You again assume only because somebody is a Bhaalspawn they are followers of Bhaal.

and 4. No, you aren't evil off the bat. You actually have a say how to use the sparkle in you, or not to use it at all. My interpretation.

Re: What is the lore behind the bhaalspawn? (Spoilers)

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:14 pm
by Lockonnow
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well I was the first one that made a Wizard Bloodmagius Arcane trickster assassion char skill Focus on Alchemy couse i have read the first Novel of Forgotten realms about the Black wizard that Follow the blood god Bhaal and i have in mind the that temple of Bhaal beneth the sewer of Baldur's gate street before it was add to this server so you can only guse where it sould headind and my char hate Vampires they steeling the blood that i need for my god about to yes that it Horror on he's way to come if i get in RP now there can be only one Blood Lord
PC The last Bhaalspwan was Imoen and still is but she wasnt possession by the spirit Bhaal she say no to the BhaalSpirit

Re: What is the lore behind the bhaalspawn? (Spoilers)

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:16 pm
by Rhifox
xLegionx wrote:"When exactly does Bhaal foresee his death and how does he foresee it?"
Bhaal is the god of murder, which means he knows of and can see any murder that happens at least several tendays before it happens. As he is murdered by Cyric during the Time of Troubles, he would have seen it coming at least a couple of months before it happened.

It's possible he knew before even that though.
"When you die the bhaal essence within scatters to the wind and adds to Bhaal's return. How exactly would this enable him to return on his own? Aside from anyone being able to make themselves a god would Bhaal not need help from his servants to return? Or does he just magically appear back in his plane?"
The essence is focused into the remaining Bhaalspawn, who get greater powers. Eventually, when there's just one, that one will have enough to spontaneously become Bhaal (even when it's spread out, the spawns are able to become a short-lived and less-powerful avatar of Bhaal). This is how he finally reforms in 1479, as the last two remaining Bhaalspawns fight and one wins, turning into the Slayer and heralding Bhaal's return. (Source: Murder in Baldur's Gate)

Bhaal still has plenty of mortal followers despite his death so he's not lacking for worshipers empowering him.


I'm unsure about the other questions.

Re: What is the lore behind the bhaalspawn? (Spoilers)

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:54 pm
by xLegionx
Ok well thanks for the replies. :)

Re: What is the lore behind the bhaalspawn? (Spoilers)

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:58 pm
by Lockonnow
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now i wonder if Imoen did say yes to be the lord of murder what her name will have been