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Frost Weapon

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 9:59 pm
by Akroma666
Why is it Druids get Frost Weapon and wizards/sorcs do not? Is this an oversight or working as intended?

Can Wizards get frost weapon considering we have Frost Mage PRC.. fits some RP.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:04 pm
by Boddynock
This seems to indicate they should get it...

http://alcyius.com/dndtools/spells/fros ... index.html

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:11 pm
by Eclypticon
I'm okay with arcane casters getting it, but the duration needs to be low like blades of fire.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 11:39 pm
by Akroma666
It's fine to be same duration. I just want it for RP flavorz

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:47 am
by Boddynock
Eclypticon wrote:I'm okay with arcane casters getting it, but the duration needs to be low like blades of fire.
Why? Blades of Fire's duration is so short it is useless.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:58 am
by Aspect of Sorrow
Boddynock wrote:
Eclypticon wrote:I'm okay with arcane casters getting it, but the duration needs to be low like blades of fire.
Why? Blades of Fire's duration is so short it is useless.
Agreed, short uses just to drop a troll or two.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:59 am
by Boddynock
Aspect of Sorrow wrote:
Boddynock wrote:
Eclypticon wrote:I'm okay with arcane casters getting it, but the duration needs to be low like blades of fire.
Why? Blades of Fire's duration is so short it is useless.
Agreed, short uses just to drop a troll or two.
Again though, why?

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:00 am
by mrm3ntalist
Aspect of Sorrow wrote:Agreed, short uses just to drop a troll or two.
It can be extended by the spell minor extension, can it not?

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:55 am
by Tantive
I've had difficulty finding which spell actually works with spell extension.

For the only few spells it should actually be useful for, the 1 round or extended 2 rounds spells I can't see any that last with Minor Spell extension. And its not even said if spell extension would do so for all your spells cast, or just the last one you did.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:04 am
by Akroma666
I have to agree, blades of fire duration is pretty pathetic.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:09 am
by chad878262
Akroma666 wrote:I have to agree, blades of fire duration is pretty pathetic.
Unless you're a Ranger! ;) It is primarily a Ranger spell as it applies the fire to dual wielded weapons. Flame Blade would make more sense to cast for other characters IMO, though Flame Blade gets the much better min/lvl duration...

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:08 pm
by Eclypticon
If you guys feel that gishes need a little more power because of some of the last years more recent changes, then I'm fine by increasing the duration. I mean you can't quite build them the way you used to and not pay for it. They are still very good in my opinion though.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 12:32 pm
by Akroma666
I think it lasts a round a level if I'm not mistaken? Making just 2 rounds a level would be wonderful. Specially in addition to adding it to frost weapon and giving frost weapon to wizards. Would be appreciated.

Re: Frost Weapon

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:13 pm
by Boddynock
I think keeping it one round a level would be plenty of duration, 60 rounds at CL 30 if extended. Just doesn't need to be nerfed into obscurity like blades of fire. And yes, I had gishes in mind when I suggested this, as they took a big hit in effectiveness.