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Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 7:42 pm
by CommanderKrieg
Hey Everybody,

I am a computer noob. I just bought this motherboard and had no idea how it worked. So! I need to now the best CPU I can buy for it. Any help is greatly appreciated! The mother board is listed below!



Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:23 pm
by Selande
I'd really like to help you Krieg.

But it's AMD.

So my advice...
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Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:27 pm
by CommanderKrieg
You sir have assassinated my feelings.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 8:29 pm
by Selande
:mrgreen:

If it were anything else I could probably help you out.
I don't stay updated on AMD junk tho.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2016 9:29 pm
by Eclypticon
Everyone that is into gaming and still likes AMD buys Intel. I have an I7 because AMD could not match the specific needs that the 4790k could offer me. Zen may be different.

This is what you will need otherwise: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113284

You are going to want to use some high quality cooling with that beast because it will get hot. I'd go closed looped water cooling mate. Coolmaster or Lepa. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835494019

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Here is another CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113398

^ I'd still slap a closed loop water cooling system on that. There is another CPU they sell that may be more powerful, but I strongly recommend against it. The FX-9590 is a power hog @ 220 watts. The small boost in performance is not worth the money. You would need a large case with plenty of fans, and the best water cooling you can buy.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:40 am
by Storm Munin
Anything that make you able to play on the server CommanderKrieg, those above look promising.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:39 am
by CommanderKrieg
Eclypticon wrote:Everyone that is into gaming and still likes AMD buys Intel. I have an I7 because AMD could not match the specific needs that the 4790k could offer me. Zen may be different.

This is what you will need otherwise: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113284

You are going to want to use some high quality cooling with that beast because it will get hot. I'd go closed looped water cooling mate. Coolmaster or Lepa. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6835494019

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product

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Here is another CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819113398

^ I'd still slap a closed loop water cooling system on that. There is another CPU they sell that may be more powerful, but I strongly recommend against it. The FX-9590 is a power hog @ 220 watts. The small boost in performance is not worth the money. You would need a large case with plenty of fans, and the best water cooling you can buy.
Your the man! Thank you! Its not that great of a price jump either. I cant thank you enough for helping me find this. I wanted to be clocking at around 4.0 GHz. I know Intel is typically more reliable and a better company, but I already bought the motherboard so I have sort of made my bed.

The next thing I am looking to purchase is a graphics card. I want to be able to run full ENB skyrim and have every mod available with full frame rates. I want my randy savage dragons to have individual hairs on its chin! I have lived with weak graphics cards in the past. So my next question is will a Geforce Nvidia 980 cut it?

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 12:40 pm
by Eclypticon
I wouldn't call Intel a better company, but they have made better CPUs recently in the last 3 years. I'm putting my money on AMD next year, but we will need to see those benchmarks to know for sure where they stand.

Buy the RX 480 mate. It has more VRAM and performs the same as the 980 in many benchmarks while beating the 980 in others, especially, DX 12 and Vulkan titles. Otherwise, you will want to go with the Fury X or the 1070.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:27 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
Eclypticon wrote:I wouldn't call Intel a better company, but they have made better CPUs recently in the last 3 years. I'm putting my money on AMD next year, but we will need to see those benchmarks to know for sure where they stand.
Possibly since 2002, with a few archs that were dismal (Broadwell comes to mind). Performance differences with the extra instructions involved were exceptional rather than marginal on a per clock scale. The x86 world is finally addressing it's power consumption issue to retaliate against the behemoth of the SoC's out there before we run out of silicon to enumerate (1nm is two silicon atoms wide, too leaky of electrons through the gate to be viable) and carbon or graphene takes over. Both companies need to address their power consumption issues in order to survive.
Eclypticon wrote:Buy the RX 480 mate. It has more VRAM and performs the same as the 980 in many benchmarks while beating the 980 in others, especially, DX 12 and Vulkan titles. Otherwise, you will want to go with the Fury X or the 1070.
This is closer to the 970 than the 980.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:08 pm
by Shad
Hail holy war :)

Its somewhere in between.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd ... ,4616.html

With CPUs its lot simpler then that.
http://cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

And that aside
Intel where you want to, well, plug-and-play & what-you-pay-is-what-you-get.
AMD where you want to, well, plug-and-have-some-good-time(tweak, unlock, cool)-and then play better for less money. But maybe not, if you not lucky, or money dosen't matter. In high-end now Intel makes it better right now.

So for clients I now mostly choose Intel, and for myself - AMD, because its interesting and more effective if you get it right - in mid range.

Also, if its NWN2, 8 cores would not help much. I'd stick to higher among possible single-thread performance
http://cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

And its easy to cool well, any CPU, with cooler just powerful enough. But there is caveat. 990FX chipset is hot, and if it well, can work at up to 105C, its not very good for it. So if watercooling - then you should cool chipset too. If air coolers - don't forget about chipset when you choose.
I myself put once big good air cooler and it was that good that even in passive mode, was enough. To bad chipset didn't have temperature sensors. Good I found out.

RX480 is good choice too, as it meant to be good in mid-range, and it does that. Any more would not be worth it I believe. Sometime driver optimizations count more, so depends on what you going to play.

And, p.s. +- in same class don't matter that much. 970,rx480,980,Fury X.. are you really going to play freshest game @4k to need best? Be cool, choose wise. And choose what you like.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:18 pm
by Eclypticon
Aspect of Sorrow wrote: Possibly since 2002, with a few archs that were dismal (Broadwell comes to mind). Performance differences with the extra instructions involved were exceptional rather than marginal on a per clock scale. The x86 world is finally addressing it's power consumption issue to retaliate against the behemoth of the SoC's out there before we run out of silicon to enumerate (1nm is two silicon atoms wide, too leaky of electrons through the gate to be viable) and carbon or graphene takes over. Both companies need to address their power consumption issues in order to survive.
I have no reason to debate this. I agree.
Aspect of Sorrow wrote: This is closer to the 970 than the 980.
For the most part this is true, for now, but I cannot recommend the 980 when the 1070 1060 and RX 480 are available. I have seen benchmarks change over time with AMD vs Nvidia GPUs. I'm thinking the RX 480 is capable of somewhere between 970 and 980 if not 980 levels with more effective drivers. But. You are probably right.

I wouldn't recommend the 970 for a heavily modded Skyrim though. The Fury X, while having only 4GB of VRAM, has HBM which is the only thing going for it in my opinion. I think the Fury X is still too hot and uses more power than it should. The Fury X still beats the RX 480 in many benchmarks though.

The best GPUs to go with are the new ones as far as I am concerned. They have more features, options, better architectures, and will age better. The RX 480 and the 1070 (which is the best choice benchmark wise) are probably the best he will be able to get (especially over time) using those CPU's until more DX 12 and Vulkan support is available. Those CPU or the 1060. I double checked the specs and I cant recommend the 1070 now. The CPU's will bottleneck the card enough to cause problems. So, it is the 1060 that you will want to think about Nvidia wise.


In any event, once you pick a GPU, I suggest you get a monitor with a variable refresh rate to go with it. If you go AMD, then that means getting a freesync monitor. If you go Nvidia, that means getting a G-sync monitor. Freesync is more reasonably priced than G-sync if that matters to you.

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Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:29 pm
by Shad
What do you think about Fury Nano, btw. If anything, its interesting concept.

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:31 pm
by Aspect of Sorrow
Would be my go to if I were space constrained, and not on a laptop already. ;)

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:54 pm
by CommanderKrieg
What about this Radeon R9 295X2?

Would I be better with that rather than the 980 gtx??

Re: Whats my best processor options?

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 2:59 pm
by V'rass
AMD is not a bad grapics card. Many of my past computers were AMD and they ran most games fine though some would be a bit slow.