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I have hard time believing someone will be able to keep running quests for 60 hours without going nuts. One quest run takes 2 hours.Kauaiian wrote:Couldnt someone create 20 "false" pcs, get them to 3k xp from quests and then RCR all of them into one high level pc?
I believe this is already automatically handled by RCR system. IIRC Endelyon said that xp reduction calculations are done on withdraval not on deposit. Meaning that once amount of accumulated xp goes over level 10, penalties will start to kick in, regardless of how you acquired it.Side wrote:Perhaps if it adjusted to use a penalty that matches the level stored for the penalty to experience it could work.
Basically if you put 1k exp in but already have 18 levels worth of experience in there the 1k exp would be reduced as if it was given up by a level 18 character. Only the first batch of experience placed in the RCR bot would receive normal penalties. It would make attempting to abuse it far less worth while, but should still work for the original goal.
The penalty happens on the character that is removed, not the character that receives it. So it's not about accumulated XP, but amount that is being stored.NegInfinity wrote: I believe this is already automatically handled by RCR system. IIRC Endelyon said that xp reduction calculations are done on withdraval not on deposit. Meaning that once amount of accumulated xp goes over level 10, penalties will start to kick in, regardless of how you acquired it.
Ah, so the mechanism changed? (I hope it takes ecl into account)Deathgrowl wrote:The penalty happens on the character that is removed, not the character that receives it. So it's not about accumulated XP, but amount that is being stored.NegInfinity wrote: I believe this is already automatically handled by RCR system. IIRC Endelyon said that xp reduction calculations are done on withdraval not on deposit. Meaning that once amount of accumulated xp goes over level 10, penalties will start to kick in, regardless of how you acquired it.
Not that I am aware. What happens is (as I understand it - bear in mind I am not a dev with insight to into the scripts, and this is mainly my experience with how it seems to work) the RCR bot sees how much XP the character you are deleting has. It takes that XP and divides it in two, then stores it. When you make a new character you can withdraw all of that XP up to the amount necessary for reaching level 20 with that character (so it takes ECL into account, as far as I have seen). Whatever goes above that cap is lost.NegInfinity wrote:Ah, so the mechanism changed? (I hope it takes ecl into account)
Someone already mentioned how accumulating XP can be exploited. I'm a little bit curious about the intention behind the suggestion myself. Is the idea to have several level 10 characters, RCR them to an accumulating pool and then make a level 20?NegInfinity wrote:I would not mind if penalty was applied to additional xp - as if you were sacrificing character with total amount of xp you store.
Deathgrowl, this information is completely incorrect.Deathgrowl wrote:Not that I am aware. What happens is (as I understand it - bear in mind I am not a dev with insight to into the scripts, and this is mainly my experience with how it seems to work) the RCR bot sees how much XP the character you are deleting has. It takes that XP and divides it in two, then stores it. When you make a new character you can withdraw all of that XP up to the amount necessary for reaching level 20 with that character (so it takes ECL into account, as far as I have seen). Whatever goes above that cap is lost.NegInfinity wrote:Ah, so the mechanism changed? (I hope it takes ecl into account)
I have decent number of lowbie characters I accumulated which I never play. The idea was to merge them without completely losing the effort that went into making them.Deathgrowl wrote: Someone already mentioned how accumulating XP can be exploited. I'm a little bit curious about the intention behind the suggestion myself. Is the idea to have several level 10 characters, RCR them to an accumulating pool and then make a level 20?
Apologies. I should have been more clear about what I meant here. My explanation is on how I percieved them to work prior to the scaling change. I am however pretty sure that the scaling happens on the character that is deleted rather than the one that picks up the XP afterwards. So as you say a level 10 can store 100% of its XP, while a level 12 can store 90% of it. And then above 20, it works as I explained. If indeed that is how it worked.NegInfinity wrote: Deathgrowl, this information is completely incorrect.
See RCR mechanic changes.
Right now RCR ffor level 10 and below is free, past that point you start getting 5% penalties for every level.
When RCR was about to be re-enabled there were multiple posts (I won't be able to find them down) which said that calculations are performed on xp withdrawal.
Once again, since I don't have access to scripts, I don't know how exactly the bot works.
As I said, I think someone who knew how the system works said that scaling happens on withdrawal. I think it was done in RCR-related thread in general section.Deathgrowl wrote: Apologies. I should have been more clear about what I meant here. My explanation is on how I percieved them to work prior to the scaling change.
There you go. Is this how it actually works?Tsidkenu wrote:[th]Level[/th][th]ECL 0 XP (RCR XP)[/th][th]ECL +1 XP (RCR XP)[/th][th]ECL+2 XP (RCR XP)[/th][th]RCR %[/th][tr][td]11[/td][td]55,000 (52,250)[/td][td]66,000 (62,700)[/td][td]78,000 (74,100)[/td][td]95%[/td][/tr][tr][td]12[/td][td]66,000 (59,400)[/td][td]78,000 (70,200)[/td][td]91,000 (81,900)[/td][td]90%[/td][/tr][tr][td]13[/td][td]78,000 (66,300)[/td][td]91,000 (77,350)[/td][td]105,000 (89,250)[/td][td]85%[/td][/tr][tr][td]14[/td][td]91,000 (72,800)[/td][td]105,000 (84,000)[/td][td]120,000 (96,000)[/td][td]80%[/td][/tr][tr][td]15[/td][td]105,000 (78,500)[/td][td]120,000 (90,000)[/td][td]136,000 (102,000)[/td][td]75%[/td][/tr][tr][td]16[/td][td]120,000 (84,000)[/td][td]136,000 (95,200)[/td][td]153,000 (107,000)[/td][td]70%[/td][/tr][tr][td]17[/td][td]136,000 (88,000)[/td][td]153,000 (99,450)[/td][td]171,000 (111,000)[/td][td]65%[/td][/tr][tr][td]18[/td][td]153,000 (91,800)[/td][td]171,000 (102,600)[/td][td]190,000 (114,000)[/td][td]60%[/td][/tr][tr][td]19[/td][td]171,000 (94,050)[/td][td]190,000 (104,500)[/td][td]210,000 (115,500)[/td][td]55%[/td][/tr][tr][td]20[/td][td]190,000 (95,000)[/td][td]210,000 (105,000)[/td][td]231,000 (115,500)[/td][td]50%[/td][/tr]