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PRC Forest Master

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:24 pm
by Akroma666
Forest Master
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I suggest we add the powerful Forest Master!
http://nwn2customcontent.wikidot.com/forest-master
http://alcyius.com/dndtools/classes/for ... index.html


It is a very strong PRC. I would suggest cutting the spellcasting down to 6 caster levels as per Wyatt's comments.

Also might suggest lowering the free epic feats to a single Great Strength at level 4, and a single point of Great Strength and Great Constitution at level 10. If we feel its still too powerful.

Class would offer a fighter Gish option for nature focused classes and give a +10 caster levels with Practiced Caster without the weapon prerequisites.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:25 am
by Wyatt
I like the idea of the prc. A melee alternative to dragon druids that feels a bit more nature-y. I would keep at least 6 levels of cl. The prc has steep requirements for feats. Warmace is a martial weapon I believe so you'd have to have already taken a class that grants it which would already have reduced cl. It does grant a lot of immunities with tree form.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:33 am
by Akroma666
Wyatt wrote:Warmace is a martial weapon I believe so you'd have to have already taken a class that grants it which would already have reduced cl.
Nice find! Didn't see that, I'll change my proposition.

I know the class is strong, but it brings some great Gish play styles to the server. The tree form is strong, but fire vulnerability.. Fire is everywhere! We can make it so FvS doesn't count towards the class too. I think if the QC tweaked it enough, it would an amazing class for the server.

Plus the RP of being a tree warrior!

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:24 pm
by NegInfinity
Wyatt wrote:I like the idea of the prc. A melee alternative to dragon druids that feels a bit more nature-y. I would keep at least 6 levels of cl. The prc has steep requirements for feats. Warmace is a martial weapon I believe so you'd have to have already taken a class that grants it which would already have reduced cl. It does grant a lot of immunities with tree form.
That's a good thing, no? I mean, warmace is one of the most useless weapons at the moment.

So, to summarize... Requirements:
Deity: silvanus.
Feats: Power Attack, Alertness, Endurance(Toughness?), Skill Focus: Wilderness Lore.
Skills: Knowledge Nature 8, Wilderness Lore 13, Intuit Detection (?) 4.
Weapon Proficiency: Warmaul (which doesn't exxist in nwn), so Weapon Proficiency martial..
Spells: Entangle, Plant Growth, Control Plants. Control plants is level 8 druid spell (or plant domain).

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 12:42 pm
by Wyatt
Akroma666 wrote:
Wyatt wrote:Warmace is a martial weapon I believe so you'd have to have already taken a class that grants it which would already have reduced cl.
Nice find! Didn't see that, I'll change my proposition.

I know the class is strong, but it brings some great Gish play styles to the server. The tree form is strong, but fire vulnerability.. Fire is everywhere! We can make it so FvS doesn't count towards the class too. I think if the QC tweaked it enough, it would an amazing class for the server.

Plus the RP of being a tree warrior!
Won't energy immunity just negate the fire vulnerability? If so it really is a non issue. Cast it before you hit Greypeaks... I certainly think it could be balanced for the server though.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:15 pm
by Akroma666
Wyatt wrote:Won't energy immunity just negate the fire vulnerability? If so it really is a non issue. Cast it before you hit Greypeaks... I certainly think it could be balanced for the server though.
It will indeed negate it, but with the loss of caster levels, a single breach or dispel should strip the immunity. I would be okay with it not even working for all I care.. the PC has other key elements of fun RP and mechanical power.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 1:34 pm
by Theodore01
That PRC is as powerful as a dragon disciple or even stronger.

Now look at something like the Silverstar-PRC and compare both from a powerlevel.

What do you expect a nerfed forest master would look like ?

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:17 pm
by Lockonnow
who will build it?

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 2:32 pm
by Akroma666
Already done^ Just needs tweeking

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 6:17 pm
by NegInfinity
Akroma666 wrote:
Already done^ Just needs tweeking
You might wanna check if this class is actually available for download.
Kaedrin hasn't been updating his stuff for quite some time on neverwintervault.

Due to the way nwn2 work it is not "already done". Someone will need to rip the class out of kaedrin and reintegrate into bgtscc scripts.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:23 pm
by Akroma666
chambordini wrote:I mean imagine an EDM cleric with this, so the work is making it in line with the rest of the content.
It would be nice to limit this class to spirit shaman, ranger, and druid.
Agreed that edm would be nuts on this. Forest domain clerics might be a bit much for this PRC.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:22 pm
by Calodan
Just ban them from taking the feat EDM and DM. SImple fix. No stupidness required of watering down the PRC so much it makes it little more than a title.

One could also add in that the deity must be a nature one. You could still be a cleric of Silvanus.....

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 3:01 pm
by Thorsson
It's too strong with Cleric, even watered down. Especially as Silvanus has some nice Domains...

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:00 pm
by Akroma666
Basic idea is to make a PRC that is strong and not the usual dragon druid.
I'm fine with banning it from clerics.

Re: PRC Forest Master

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:42 pm
by Calodan
What is the impact of a Druid/Hierophant/Forest Master class to balance on the server?