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Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:12 pm
by Pimple
This would be cool. That is all.

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:48 pm
by Steve
PnP/Lore spells
Between players: Spells that do not exist in the game do not exist. Cantrips that do not affect another player are fine, but all other spells do not exist. (this is part of play what is on your sheet)
From the DM Decisions thread—so copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy away!

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:03 pm
by TarnishedSoul
I imagine that Candlekeep probably uses this one all the time. :D

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:49 pm
by The Scribes
Since it does not exist. You can always use us!

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:52 pm
by Tsidkenu
The Scribes wrote:Since it does not exist. You can always use us!
Amanuensis is a harmless cantrip, therefore it is permitted for RP despite not 'existing' (a rule I've always hated).

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:22 pm
by The Scribes
Tsidkenu wrote:
The Scribes wrote:Since it does not exist. You can always use us!
Amanuensis is a harmless cantrip, therefore it is permitted for RP despite not 'existing' (a rule I've always hated).
That is nice and all, but as you can read it says that the symbols are not drawn. Therefore if someone does not have a skilled hand, they can not be able to copy complex works of a scribe, only text.

We understand that everybody wants freebies, but since we are actually trying to make our job legitimate, this cantrip would aid us and hurt us. I mean, what if text is made cursive? Then it is considered a image instead, no?
Steve wrote:
PnP/Lore spells
Between players: Spells that do not exist in the game do not exist. Cantrips that do not affect another player are fine, but all other spells do not exist. (this is part of play what is on your sheet)
From the DM Decisions thread—so copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy copy away!
They affect our roleplay, and our commerce; therefore you can not be able to use it. It affects candlekeep as well since they all use scribes. If anything why not try to do it in a actualy in game way. Summon some monsters, or beings, or a djinn, and control monster or person. Just scribe away some copies because the other beings are copying your hand movement.

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:53 pm
by Tantive
(Spell Compendium, p. 9)

Transmutation
Level: Cleric 0, Sorcerer 0, Wizard 0,
Components: V, S,
Casting Time: 1 Standard Action
Range: Close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)
Target: Object or objects with writing
Duration: 10 minutes/level
Saving Throw: Will negates (object)
Spell Resistance: Yes (object)

You point at the writing and then move your hand as though holding a stylus or quill. As you intone the spell, the script appears on a sheet of paper close at hand.

You cause writing from one source (such as a book) to be copied into a book, paper, or parchment. This spell copies 250 words per minute and creates a perfect duplicate of the original. The spell copies only nonmagical text, not illustrations or magical writings (such as the text of a spellbook, a spell scroll, or a sepia snake sigil). If the target contains normal and magical writing (such as a letter with explosive runes), only the normal text is copied, leaving blank space in the copied text where the magical writing would be expected. Likewise, if the target contains text and illustration, only the text is copied.

The spell triggers (but does not copy) writing-based magic traps in the material being copied.

Blank paper, parchment, or a book must be provided for the spell to write upon. If the target has multiple pages, the spell automatically turns to the next blank page whenever necessary. If more pages in the target exist than blank pages are available, the spell copies the original until it runs out of blank pages.

At any time during the spell's duration you can redirect the magic to copy from another target, copy onto a different blank source, or resume a duplication that was interrupted by a shortfall of blank pages.
The spell does not translate the copied writing. If you do not understand the original, you have no additional ability to understand the copy.
Cursive(I'de say the default way people write in common), foreign languages to you, would all fall under text. You must still bring forth the materials and the time it takes to copy the book, but all it does for you is give the ability to research something of interest later, while you are occupied with something else. It is in no way sufficient if you want to make an elaborate copy for a library if the book has had greater value and illustrations. What the spell doesn't precisely say how long you have to stay in range, it does show casting range.

In the older edition spell (3.0?), it was a third circle spell if I recall, and also allowed to copy magical writings to ones spellbook if you had the components, but not for the manner of making a scroll.

10 minutes/level , 250 words per minute. Some sneaky person could dispell your work in progress.

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:14 pm
by The Scribes
Tantive wrote: Cursive(I'de say the default way people write in common), foreign languages to you, would all fall under text. You must still bring forth the materials and the time it takes to copy the book, but all it does for you is give the ability to research something of interest later, while you are occupied with something else. It is in no way sufficient if you want to make an elaborate copy for a library if the book has had greater value and illustrations. What the spell doesn't precisely say how long you have to stay in range, it does show casting range.

In the older edition spell (3.0?), it was a third circle spell if I recall, and also allowed to copy magical writings to ones spellbook if you had the components, but not for the manner of making a scroll.

10 minutes/level , 250 words per minute. Some sneaky person could dispell your work in progress.
A signature is also text. That is the only thing that we are against. You can forge signatures. Also, the first message was a shameless plug, or you can do the lazy cop-out spell. If you do not want to waste the gold for actual work and just want the DMs to give you free things, go ahead. We will be here working.

Re: Cantrip: Amanuensis!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:17 pm
by Steve
Simply put: there is a difference between a simple copy, and scribing an original, to which I maybe incorrectly assume is what The Scribed are all about?!?