Anti-Magic Melody

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Anti-Magic Melody

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As it is implemented currently for Dissonant Chord PrC on BGTSCC:
Anti-Magic Melody: At 5th level, a dissonant chord can use her Perform skill to negate magic. This works as Mordenkainen's Disjunctions with a cap equal to her bard level (no prestige classes count and this has a +25 max cap). This potent ability is quite exhausting to use as each time it is activated it uses four of her bardic music uses for the day.
I would like to suggest a change, either:

- let Bard progressing prestige classes count toward this cap.
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- let the Dissonant Chord PrC count toward the cap (at least).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the ONLY way to maximize this feat is to build a Bard 25 / DS 5. And, the Mords itself strips 6 spells from the Breach List, then, makes a DC against all spells on the Target, at a maximum DC of 25 + 1d20 vs 11 + CL of Target.

Do either of my options sound reasonable? With the 25 cap, this Fear has a 15% chance to work against a CL 30 Target, however, ONLY if you make one build (the 25/5 split).

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Re: Anti-Magic Melody

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Both sound fine. It's always struck me as silly that the PrC levels do not do anything for the PrC ability. What logic is that? :?:

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I agree with both, Although i do believe the breach aspect should be removed from both the song and spell.

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I looked up, the description is wrong, dissonant chord levels count towards the cap. Other bard perstige classes are not taken into account though .. which seems silly to me. I think there is only stormsinger ?
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@A: so it would not be an exact Mords, but a DC against each Spell on the Target?

@V: well, many years ago I asked Luna to have the DC levels add towards the cap, so maybe he actually did it?!?
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And I'm assuming that Bard CL gained through PsC feat, also applies? Or, just straight levels?
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Yea Steve but i would also suggest it gets removed from Mords xD But that's another topic. An uncapped dispel and greater spellbreach in one spell or ability is a bit much with the dispel fix.

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It counts class levels, not caster level, and yes Luna probably did it !
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Thanks for the responses. I would then officially request QC review allowing bard-progressing PrCs to apply to the DS's Anti-Magic Melody...and hopefully approve it.

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Re: Anti-Magic Melody

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*bump and check-in*

Did Anti-Magic Melody get updated to reflect stacking of Bard + Dissonent Chord + StormSinger?

Once confirmed, I can update Forum and/or the Wiki. Cheers.
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Yes, however since we're setting up a new wiki, without ads, there : https://wiki.bgtscc.net/index.php?title=Main_Page I encourage you to do the wiki edits in that place. Even if everything is not completely functional yet it will be soon be the case.
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Re: Anti-Magic Melody

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Am i getting this right?

5 dc + 10 Ss + 15 bard counts towards the cap of anti magic melody. Did I read it correctly? :o

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It's still capped at 25 but bard + stormsinger + dissonant chord levels are counted yes.
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Does this song count in Olin gisir if taking levels as bard ?

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I forgot that when writing the class but it should be taken it into account (line 56 of nw_s0_morddisj fro any dev seeing this).
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