Baldur's Gate : The Sword Coast Chronicles : NWN2 Persistent World

So, I've been thinking about using this build. Can you guys tell me if it's good enough to play here?

Also, considering I haven't played in BG for a while, are there any new spells or feats I should be adding here?

It is good, your CL might give you some issues and I would take practiced spellcaster earlier but I think it should be ok otherwise.

Feint and Curse song don't work well together, curse song gives a dodge AC debuff that is canceled by Feint (yes it's buggy but that's how it works, feint cancels all dodge AC wether positive or negative). I would forget curse song and get lingering song in.

Valefort wrote:Feint and Curse song don't work well together, curse song gives a dodge AC debuff that is canceled by Feint (yes it's buggy but that's how it works, feint cancels all dodge AC wether positive or negative). I would forget curse song and get lingering song in.

Wow, really? I had no idea, thanks for letting me know!

But isn't it still worth it? I mean, Curse Song still deals some damage and decreases attack/damage/saves.
Sure, Lingering Song is one hell of an add-on and... ah, I'm divided now!

As Val said, it'll work. But why bother Feinting when you only have 2d6 sneak attack? Sure, it'll be good if you're planning to adventure with a rogue without HiPS, but I think the build would be better off without Guild Thief (unless it is for RP purposes). It would get you CL 30, save you a feat for having Blind Fight anyway (or substitute for Lingering Song, which will drastically improve your Requiem).

The AC will be 46 or so, and that is just enough (especially with Mirror Images and Displacement un-dispel-able).

Steve wrote:As Val said, it'll work. But why bother Feinting when you only have 2d6 sneak attack? Sure, it'll be good if you're planning to adventure with a rogue without HiPS, but I think the build would be better off without Guild Thief (unless it is for RP purposes). It would get you CL 30, save you a feat for having Blind Fight anyway (or substitute for Lingering Song, which will drastically improve your Requiem).

The AC will be 46 or so, and that is just enough (especially with Mirror Images and Displacement un-dispel-able).

Steve is correct - Feint does not worth it. Not only you have few SA dice, but you lose one attack and you only have 5

That's a really interesting input. I was counting on the benefits of feinting regardless of how low my SA could be. Thank you for that!

I'm sorry if I'm pushing the envelope here, but I have two more questions:

1) Is bard 27 the only/most adequate choice here or would I do well with a PrC like Stormsinger or Dissonant Chord?

2) Since Trickery isn't a necessity anymore, what other domains would you guys recommend for a more solo-oriented playstyle?

RmmBR wrote:1) Is bard 27 the only/most adequate choice here or would I do well with a PrC like Stormsinger or Dissonant Chord?

It depends on the build. DC can work with high enough charisma so will Stormsinger. It all comes down to whether you need the bonus epic feats you get on Bard23 and 26. If you dont need them, then both these classes are good enough for a CHA21 build

2) Since Trickery isn't a necessity anymore, what other domains would you guys recommend for a more solo-oriented playstyle?

Water domain for evasion.

I would keep Feint and drop Curse song, there are items with +1d6 sneak attack (especially thinking about a shield) that will stack with your guild thief sneak dices and you'll get a nice +3d6 damage on each attack. Just use feint on the last attack of the roudn and you'll do fine, anyway this attack will likely not hit otherwise.

As someone that has played Feinters lots, and continues to do so, Feint is really only useful if you have good SA—like 5d6 or higher—and Improved TWF or higher.

Why? Because to utilize Feint well, as Valefort points out to click it on your last attack per round, requires constant timing and management of your attacks. I mean CONSTANT. If you miss out, or the Server hiccups/lags, you'll waste your high AB attack on Feint (which you'll need in order to just keep up non-SA dmg).

3d6 is an average of 9 pts dmg, but only if a) you beat the mobs Spot check for Feint, b) the mob isn't Sneak Attack immune, and c) in particular to a Bard 27 / Cleric 3 builds, you can pick up Lingering Song on your extra Bard epic feat, giving you an addition 5 * 80 pts requiem dmg. Ain't no Feint + SA that'll equal that mate!!!

Thanks a lot for your help, guys. I'm definitely think about a tweak or two in that build.
One final question, though: is there a way I can 'test' my builds with the server content? Like one of those test playground mods we can download or something like that.

Edit: there's a huge test mod thread right in this forum. I'm ashamed of myself. Cheers.