Adamantine Gloves Not really Adamantine.

[Kagger911]

They do not go through the dr of stone body.

[Blackman D]

well, you shouldnt be finding addy weapons about anyway so... probably working as intended

tho i guess the other question would be are they gloves or gantlets? because gloves are armor and addy should have 1/- or some such for armor, i know FP is 3/-

gantlets are weapons and again those shouldnt be around, if you want addy fist you gonna have to go high level monk

[YourMoveHolyMan]

They are for sale in the epic store. But monk gloves have always had a hard code issue of not applying material type to bypass Dr.

[Endelyon]

Right, as Blackman D and YMHM noted there is an issue with any glove-type weapon that prevents them being able to inherently bypass DR, so it's impossible to make these work properly in any case.

I'll remove the adamantine property on them in the next update so at least no one will accidentally buy them thinking they're better than they really are.

@ Kagger: If you want your money back for the gloves feel free to seek out a DM to pick them up for a refund (you can point them towards this post if they are unsure whether or not it's okay), or if you feel like keeping them for the sake of novelty that's fine too.

[Aeb Ankor]

If the intention was to make them Epic Gloves that offer Adamantine punching... just have them add the FEAT Ki Strike Adamantine. The same could work for lesser versions with Ki Magic and Ki Lawful.

[chad878262]

If the intention was to make them Epic Gloves that offer Adamantine punching... just have them add the FEAT Ki Strike Adamantine. The same could work for lesser versions with Ki Magic and Ki Lawful.

We shouldn't do this as Adamantine weapons were removed for that very reason. This would allow all kinds of exploits for fist builds that do not take 16 monk levels, such as Sacred Fists. As stated earlier, if you want adamantine fists, take more monk levels.

[Theodore01]

We shouldn't do this as Adamantine weapons were removed for that very reason. This would allow all kinds of exploits for fist builds that do not take 16 monk levels, such as Sacred Fists. As stated earlier, if you want adamantine fists, take more monk levels.

Yeah, well said

[Aeb Ankor]

If the intention was to make them Epic Gloves that offer Adamantine punching... just have them add the FEAT Ki Strike Adamantine. The same could work for lesser versions with Ki Magic and Ki Lawful.

We shouldn't do this as Adamantine weapons were removed for that very reason. This would allow all kinds of exploits for fist builds that do not take 16 monk levels, such as Sacred Fists. As stated earlier, if you want adamantine fists, take more monk levels.

Then why approve the faulty item months ago when the balance was looked at before the addition?!?

Left this... right hand, no that...

These things are looked at correct, and not just weeks spent on half-drow skin tone and hair rulings...

[Blackman D]

given it was added in as armor there was nothing wrong with it... its a matter of confusion that is being dealt with now

[chad878262]

What is it they say happens when you assume?

Then why approve the faulty item months ago when the balance was looked at before the addition?!?

Just looked at the thread and adamantine weapons were discussed. It was decided they should be left out and have their own discussion later if we want to add them in. However, as BMD mentions an armor wouldn't apply adamantine against DR anyway so it's not a balance concern... Perhaps it was missed or left alone because they don't work anyway (but then, there I go making an assumption!) In any case it is not a balance concern since they are 'faulty' so it doesn't really fall under the purview of QC.

Left this... right hand, no that...

I'd say our noble admin summed it up pretty well here...

Right, as Blackman D and YMHM noted there is an issue with any glove-type weapon that prevents them being able to inherently bypass DR, so it's impossible to make these work properly in any case.

I'll remove the adamantine property on them in the next update so at least no one will accidentally buy them thinking they're better than they really are.

@ Kagger: If you want your money back for the gloves feel free to seek out a DM to pick them up for a refund (you can point them towards this post if they are unsure whether or not it's okay), or if you feel like keeping them for the sake of novelty that's fine too.

These things are looked at correct, and not just weeks spent on half-drow skin tone and hair rulings...

QC does not review or have any say in skins, hairs or other non-balance/testing related content. Further, we do not actually implement the updates and even when we advise dev/admin team against implementing something it is not our final call. When something goes in that causes any issue, even just confusion they will decide how to address, as Endelyon has done for Kagger.

The simple fact that the Avernus store has been around for months and months and this is only now coming up as an issue just shows how easy it would be to miss.

[Aeb Ankor]

As I remembered, a simple search shows this was brought up months ago and was missed then as well...

Post subject: Re: Adamantine weapon
Unread postPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:24 pm

There are adamantine monk gloves! But... they don't bypass DR.

[Endelyon]

I've known about the bug since the shop went in. It just wasn't exactly a priority fix.

[Theodore01]

If that really gets 'fixed', then the price should get 'fixed' as well - to a million or two

[Endelyon]

No, according to tfunke they weren't supposed to be adamantine at all and it was just a mistake on his part. What I meant when I said "fix" was removing the property from the gloves.

[Kagger911]

I don't want a refund. I sold them. Just letting people know.