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Shadow Conjuration

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:45 pm
by Nachti
Can we change the spells so they become actually useful? +shades change.

Shadow Conjuration (Brd 4, Wiz/Sorc 4)
You use material from the Plane of Shadow to shape quasi-real illusions of one or more creatures, objects, or forces. Shadow conjuration can mimic any sorcerer or wizard conjuration (summoning) or conjuration (creation) spell of 3rd level or lower.

Spells:
- Summon Monster III (but with shadow vfx applied)
- Improved Mage Armor
- Flame Arrow
- Web

Shadow Conjuration, Greater (Wiz/Sorc 7)
This spell functions like shadow conjuration, except that it can duplicate any sorcerer or wizard conjuration (summoning) or conjuration (creation) spell of 6th level or lower.

Spells:
- Summon Monster VI (summons a shadow elemental)
- Planar Binding, lesser
- Vitriolic Sphere
- Evards Black Tentacle

Shades (Wiz/Sorc 9)
This spell functions like shadow conjuration, except that it mimics sorcerer and wizard conjuration spells of 8th level or lower.

- Summon Monster VIII (summons now a shadow elemental)

Re: Shadow Conjuration

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:12 pm
by ctothep
I would very much like to see more spells added to those aswell.

Except for Web on G. Shadow Conjuration i dont find very much use for these spells. Not talking about Shades here though that spell is fine as is.

I dont agree with putting Web from G. S. Conjuration to the regular conjuration though as it would leave it with a lower DC to beat.

Re: Shadow Conjuration

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:19 pm
by chad878262
Nachti wrote:Spells:
- Summon Monster III (but with shadow vfx applied)
- Improved Mage Armor
- Flame Arrow
- Web
While my bard would thank you I don't think we need to upgrade Mage Armor to Improved Mage Armor... Maybe make IMA an option for Greater Shadow Conjuration?

Re: Shadow Conjuration

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:27 am
by Sharrans
Per PnP "Shadow Conjuration" allows an illusionist to cast conjuration spells at lesser effect.

Magic missile, Invisibility, summon shadow, ghostly visage, lesser globe of invulnerability are not conjuration spells. And immo, the only one useful are invisiblility, mage armor and propably web.

I really encourage changing the spell list to something useful.