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Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:13 am
by Steve
As per the PrC Feat:
Blast Infidel
Type of Feat: Class Ability
Prerequisites: Hierophant 1
Specifics: The Hierophant now deals double the damage for any negative energy spells that he casts (inflict wounds series, death knell, harm, slay living and negative energy ray). This does not apply to Vampiric Feast or Spell-like abilities.
Use: Automatic
Does anyone have access to a complete spell list that this Feat modifies? Above we see listed only 5 spells, however, if, for example, a Cleric with Suffering domain has Blast Infidel feat from Hiero and also gains Enervation, Horrid Wilting, etc., does Blast Infidel also effect these spells?

I'd like to compile a complete list for the Wiki, if possible. So any help/confirmation regard this topic, would be helpful.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:26 am
by Ariella
It does not no, From what i have seen it has to actually do negative energy damage.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:40 am
by Invoker
Steve wrote:As per the PrC Feat:
Blast Infidel
Type of Feat: Class Ability
Prerequisites: Hierophant 1
Specifics: The Hierophant now deals double the damage for any negative energy spells that he casts (inflict wounds series, death knell, harm, slay living and negative energy ray). This does not apply to Vampiric Feast or Spell-like abilities.
Use: Automatic
Does anyone have access to a complete spell list that this Feat modifies? Above we see listed only 5 spells, however, if, for example, a Cleric with Suffering domain has Blast Infidel feat from Hiero and also gains Enervation, Horrid Wilting, etc., does Blast Infidel also effect these spells?

I'd like to compile a complete list for the Wiki, if possible. So any help/confirmation regard this topic, would be helpful.
Horrid Wilting deals magical damage, while Enervation causes a "level/ability drain" type of effect. None of the two deals negative energy damage.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:55 am
by Steve
So essentially what you both are saying is negative energy spells and spells with the Negative descriptor or 2 separate things?!?
Negative

Negative energy is energy channelled from the negative energy plane and is associated with death and destruction. It deals damage depending on the target's status: If the target is a living creature, it will inflict damage. If the target is an undead creature, however, it will heal the creature. Negative energy is also used to drain levels and ability scores. Spells such as vampiric touch and inflict light wounds deal negative energy damage.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:59 am
by Invoker
Steve wrote:So essentially what you both are saying is negative energy spells and spells with the Negative descriptor or 2 separate things?!?
Negative

Negative energy is energy channelled from the negative energy plane and is associated with death and destruction. It deals damage depending on the target's status: If the target is a living creature, it will inflict damage. If the target is an undead creature, however, it will heal the creature. Negative energy is also used to drain levels and ability scores. Spells such as vampiric touch and inflict light wounds deal negative energy damage.
Yes. I think Blast Infidel only influences spells dealing Negative Energy damage itself.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:00 am
by Steve
Negative energy is also used to drain levels and ability scores.
But what about the above statement?

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:04 am
by Invoker
Steve wrote:
Negative energy is also used to drain levels and ability scores.
But what about the above statement?
:? Err...the above statement belongs to D&D lore...

I'm talking about how I believe Hierophant works in BGTSCC. NWN2.

What...do you mean?

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:10 am
by Steve
I'm just trying to clear up what negative energy spells +/- negative dmg causing spells, mean, when referenced against the empowerment that is advertised by the Blast Infidel feat.

As in, are the spells it currently effect short from what a total list of spells that should be effected, if there is an agreement and standard set, for such things, i.e., negative energy.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:18 am
by Invoker
Steve wrote:I'm just trying to clear up what negative energy spells +/- negative dmg causing spells, mean, when referenced against the empowerment that is advertised by the Blast Infidel feat.

As in, are the spells it currently effect short from what a total list of spells that should be effected, if there is an agreement and standard set, for such things, i.e., negative energy.
Ah, ok, then I got it right.

It's my first reply, then. And I just noticed that the feat description includes what I believe is the full list of the affected spells. Feat's pretty good, btw, especially if you are evil.

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:33 am
by Steve
Invoker wrote:I think Blast Infidel only influences spells dealing Negative Energy damage itself.
Negative energy is also used to drain levels and ability scores. Spells such as vampiric touch and inflict light wounds deal negative energy damage.
So, the issue is over the words "use" and "deal," in regard to Blast Infidel. Hmmm....

I agree, the Feat is great for those spells it affects. Should only those spells be effected? I'd say, if we are taking a full account of negative energy, then no, many other spells, ESPECIALLY those with the particular Negative descriptor to them—possibly even Death and Necromancy as well—should receive the benefits of Blast Infidel.

But maybe that would be too OP!! :lol:

Re: Blast Infidel Hierophant Feat - Complete Spell List

Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:16 am
by Invoker
Steve wrote:
Invoker wrote:I think Blast Infidel only influences spells dealing Negative Energy damage itself.
Negative energy is also used to drain levels and ability scores. Spells such as vampiric touch and inflict light wounds deal negative energy damage.
So, the issue is over the words "use" and "deal," in regard to Blast Infidel. Hmmm....

I agree, the Feat is great for those spells it affects. Should only those spells be effected? I'd say, if we are taking a full account of negative energy, then no, many other spells, ESPECIALLY those with the particular Negative descriptor to them—possibly even Death and Necromancy as well—should receive the benefits of Blast Infidel.

But maybe that would be too OP!! :lol:
Ah, it's a proposal! Ok.

Well, Clerics can't cast Vampiric Touch (would be very, very strong on a cleric...it already is for wizards, tbh. Doubling it? Nah...).

Doubling stuff like Enervation and Energy Drain would be massively overpowered. Massively.