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Add new cleric spells...

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:08 pm
by V'rass
Basically, i find the cleric/druid spell list to be under powered. Wizards/sorcerors get a vastly larger custom spell list while clerics and druids only get maybe 10 such custom spells. The cleric/druid spell list could use some additions and so i have created this post. Here i will list spells which i think would help the class or enhance class rp. I will try to include only spells that are canon and exist inside the various d&d books. Given the number of books that exist i should not run out of options any time soon.

Re: Add new cleric spells...

Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:17 pm
by V'rass
First entry... says its in Complete Divine, Defenders of the Faith, and Spell Compendium.

(Flame of Faith)

School: Evocation

Level: Clr 3, Pal 2

Descriptors: Fire

Range: Touch/1 weapon

Duration: 60 seconds per lv

When cast this spell grants the selected weapon 1d6 Fire damage for the duration.

(Note): This spell has been changed some from the original pnp version.

Re: Add new cleric spells...

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:16 am
by Invoker
V'rass wrote:Basically, i find the cleric/druid spell list to be under powered.
Actually...not really. Power-wise, they're more or less on the same level, and adjusted to complement the strengths and weaknesses of the casting class. Given the fact that, stats-wise, both Clerics and Druids are superior to Wizards and Sorcerers (twice the HP, more BAB, better saves, armored casting, better weapon proficiencies...), that "more or less" is justified.
Wizards/sorcerors get a vastly larger custom spell list while clerics and druids only get maybe 10 such custom spells.


That is true, but while variety is certainly a good point, power level is not. For instance, an Evocation Cleric can destroy armies with ease using his spell book, as well as having some of the best defense available in NWN2.
The cleric/druid spell list could use some additions and so i have created this post. Here i will list spells which i think would help the class or enhance class rp. I will try to include only spells that are canon and exist inside the various d&d books. Given the number of books that exist i should not run out of options any time soon.
Very interesting initiative.

Looking forward to reading them!

PS: I highly recommend against adding spells to improve melee performances, such as the Flame of Faith instance above. Obvious balance reasons.

Re: Add new cleric spells...

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:27 am
by dedude
Invoker wrote:That is true, but while variety is certainly a good point, power level is not. For instance, an Evocation Cleric can destroy armies with ease using his spell book, as well as having some of the best defense available in NWN2.
Outside the evocation school, I think clerics could use more "caster" spells. Is any other school viable for a caster cleric?

Re: Add new cleric spells...

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:29 am
by Invoker
dedude wrote:
Invoker wrote:That is true, but while variety is certainly a good point, power level is not. For instance, an Evocation Cleric can destroy armies with ease using his spell book, as well as having some of the best defense available in NWN2.
Outside the evocation school, I think clerics could use more "caster" spells. Is any other school viable for a caster cleric?
Necromancy, but nowhere near Evocation.

That's what I mean with "variety", and not "power": an Evo Cleric isn't second to any other caster, power-wise.