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Sputnik
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Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Hey! I've been thinking of making a (mostly) non-casting melee character who can quickly buff up to dish out the hurt.
Thing is, I want multiple 'levels' of power available for situations of increasing difficulty...
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So far, I'm aware of the following 'power-ups':

Rage
Frenzy
Dervish Dance
Divine Might/EDM
Divine Wrath
Combat Focus line of feats
Fiery Fist
Sacred Flames

There may be more, but my knowledge of theses types of abilities is admittedly limited.
I've only ever used Frenzy, Rage and Sacred Flames, so let me know if I'm leaving something out!

Would more than two of these be possible on the same character while remaining viable?

Quick examples I can think of:

20 Barb/10 DC for mighty rage + Divine Wrath + Combat focus line?
or
17 Monk/3 Blackguard/10 DC for combat focus line + EDM + Divine Wrath?

My main concern is that the stat split might weaken the character too much. Such a build would definitely suffer from MAD...

Anyways, any input or suggestions would be appreciated. :)
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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20barb/10dervish
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Barb 20/ BG 4/ DC 6

Epic Rage, Epic Divine Might, Divine Wrath

good damage,ac (icetroll berzerker) and saves.

Havent tried to build it yet.
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Hendrak wrote:Barb 20/ BG 4/ DC 6

Epic Rage, Epic Divine Might, Divine Wrath

good damage,ac (icetroll berzerker) and saves.

Havent tried to build it yet.
Not to mention the prettiest little barbarian in all the lands. High charisma raging ftw!
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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dedude wrote:
Hendrak wrote:Barb 20/ BG 4/ DC 6

Epic Rage, Epic Divine Might, Divine Wrath

good damage,ac (icetroll berzerker) and saves.

Havent tried to build it yet.
Not to mention the prettiest little barbarian in all the lands. High charisma raging ftw!
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Like this?

http://nwn2db.com/build/?264732

Was able to also add Divine Shield :o

The build needs one more Str point and Knockdown feat. Can Steadfest be taken on Divine Champion bonus feat? Wiki says no, NWN2 DB says yes.
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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dzidek1983 wrote:
dedude wrote:
Hendrak wrote:Barb 20/ BG 4/ DC 6

Epic Rage, Epic Divine Might, Divine Wrath

good damage,ac (icetroll berzerker) and saves.

Havent tried to build it yet.
Not to mention the prettiest little barbarian in all the lands. High charisma raging ftw!
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Rage
Frenzy
Dervish Dance
Divine Might/EDM
Barbarian 11/Frenzied Berserker 5/Dervish 10/Blackguard 4

You have Greater Rage which gives +6 to Strength.
You have your Frenzy which gives stacking +6 to Strength (counts as Enchantment Bonus) and Frenzied Berserker Power Attacks.
You have tireless Dervish Dance for +5 AB and Damage.
And finally you can go for Epic Divine Might, and Divine Shield.

With this build, maxing out Dervish levels is your primary priority as you can get Tireless Dervish Dance... and not Tireless Rage.

As for damage with a Greatsword:
1d12
+ 18 (Strength Modifier, 22 base with +6 from rage and +6 from frenzy)
+ 20 (Two-handed IPA with Enhanced Power Attack)
+ 5 (Dervish Dance)
+ 2d6 (Thousand Cuts)
+ 16 (Epic Divine Might with base 22 Charisma and +4 Charisma item or potion)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment bonus, almost forgot... :oops: )
= 76.5~ On Average hit...

Now, that is the damage you do when you turn on all of your abilities. But in general, Dervish dance with that Enchanced Power Attack should be enough for regular grinding.)
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Excellent idea,

but we want to make it a power build, right? And its missing evasion (barb lvl 18) and expose weakness. Also quite feat intensive, you may loose Iceland Berzerker.
Ability Points can also become a problem.

Can you show the build?
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Cannot you just the NWN2db yourself?

Starting Ability scores, 16 in both STR and CHA is preferred for any EDM build, and you also need at least 13 in dexterity and intelligence. You can ignore constitution and wisdom to make it happen, or just lower STR or CHA by one, or just use race like Aasimar.

If you want to make use of Icetroll and get the Evasion for Expose Weakness you most certainly do not even need, you could just give up Dervish. Go Barbarian 21/Blackguard 4/Frenzied Berserker 5. You will have Frenzy, but no reason to use it. Your damage per hit will be 'just' 64.5~.
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Comments Only wrote:
Rage
Frenzy
Dervish Dance
Divine Might/EDM
Barbarian 11/Frenzied Berserker 5/Dervish 10/Blackguard 4

You have Greater Rage which gives +6 to Strength.
You have your Frenzy which gives stacking +6 to Strength (counts as Enchantment Bonus) and Frenzied Berserker Power Attacks.
You have tireless Dervish Dance for +5 AB and Damage.
And finally you can go for Epic Divine Might, and Divine Shield.

With this build, maxing out Dervish levels is your primary priority as you can get Tireless Dervish Dance... and not Tireless Rage.

As for damage with a Greatsword:
1d12
+ 18 (Strength Modifier, 22 base with +6 from rage and +6 from frenzy)
+ 20 (Two-handed IPA with Enhanced Power Attack)
+ 5 (Dervish Dance)
+ 2d6 (Thousand Cuts)
+ 16 (Epic Divine Might with base 22 Charisma and +4 Charisma item or potion)
+ 4 (Weapon Enchantment bonus, almost forgot... :oops: )
= 76.5~ On Average hit...

Now, that is the damage you do when you turn on all of your abilities. But in general, Dervish dance with that Enchanced Power Attack should be enough for regular grinding.)
Oh man.. I like this!

Edit: boom! http://nwn2db.com/build/?264750
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Anyone know if the dervish cleaves count towards frenzied berserker?
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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they dont... you get them only during the dance.. its not a feat
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Re: Multiple Power-up abilities on one build

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Hello, i updated the barb20/BG4/DC6 build. It´s now an Aasimar and ends with even STR and CHA Scores (22). Also was able to include Knockdown (very late) and give it EDM earlier (lvl23).

On the Con side it has low skill points and can use a lot +4 ability items, also low CON Score (needs Primal Rage Amulet before raging).

But as wished it has some "clickies" (Epic Rage,Epic Divine Might,Divine Shield,Divine Wrath) and some good saves,ac,ab and dmg and should be therefore playable (also got steadfast and evasion).

Have a look :shock:

http://nwn2db.com/build/?264732
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