Pious Templar getting the most out of mettle

[K'yon Oblodra]

Hi guys,

I checked out Pious Templar and especially its mettle ability looks pretty damn awesome the class itself not gaining any will save progression is a real bummer of course.

I thought about combining it with Monk although I guess AC would become a bit of a problem especially cause I would have liked a more strength oriented build... I thought about paladin as well but they don't get good will saves anymore... Always thought they did... Any ideas for this?

Its only theorycrafting at this point but it seems like a pretty neat combination, good saves, possibly evasion and mettle...

[mrm3ntalist]

Pious Templar is not available. You cannot take the class

[K'yon Oblodra]

But it's in the making?

[Sun Wukong]

It is not added, but with the information as presented on the wiki: http://bgtscc.wikia.com/wiki/Pious_Templar

I would just tell you to go for a Fiery Fist/Blazing Aura/Intuitive Strike wisdom based Monk 20/Pious Templar 10. Spend the two bonus feats on epic levels on things like Epic Prowess and and Armor Skin, as those can be picked up with fighter bonus feats.

[K'yon Oblodra]

It is not added, but with the information as presented on the wiki: http://bgtscc.wikia.com/wiki/Pious_Templar

I would just tell you to go for a Fiery Fist/Blazing Aura/Intuitive Strike wisdom based Monk 20/Pious Templar 10. Spend the two bonus feats on epic levels on things like Epic Prowess and and Armor Skin, as those can be picked up with fighter bonus feats.

Thanks for the hint comments, what do fiery fist and blazing aura do? I found out that intuitive strike is like weapon finesse for wisdom and wondered if there is something that allows wisdom as damage bonus as well... It's that fiery fist?

I'll need to try to check the stat distribution already excited about this build even if it's not yet doable.

Edit: found the feats on our wiki and the nwn2 wiki... Seems that fiery fists will be pretty limited use...

Edit: well 10 times per rest ain't so bad after all...

[Sun Wukong]

Fiery Fist converts your Stunning Fist uses into fire damage, a 1d6 for a wisdom based rounds. Blazing Aura is an Epic feat that requires 23 Wisdom on this server and adds 1d10 fire damage for '5 rounds + wisdom modifier' and has a cooldown of 20 rounds.

So you are looking at:
2d10 (20 levels of monk)
+1d6 (Fiery fist)
+1d10 (Blazing Aura)
+4 (EB on gloves)
= 24~ damage a hit, 8 - 40, and with Flurry of Blows and BAB of at least 21 you get 8 attcks per round.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Fiery Fist converts your Stunning Fist uses into fire damage, a 1d6 for a wisdom based rounds. Blazing Aura is an Epic feat that requires 23 Wisdom on this server and adds 1d10 fire damage for '5 rounds + wisdom modifier' and has a cooldown of 20 rounds.

So you are looking at:
2d10 (20 levels of monk)
+1d6 (Fiery fist)
+1d10 (Blazing Aura)
+4 (EB on gloves)
= 24~ damage a hit, 8 - 40, and with Flurry of Blows and BAB of at least 21 you get 8 attcks per round.

Smite
Type of Feat: Class
Prerequisites: Pious Templar 2
Specifics: Twice per day, a pious templar of 2nd level or higher may make a single melee attack with a +4 attack bonus and a damage bonus equal to her pious templar level (if she hits). The pious templar must declare the smite before making the attack. Starting at 6th level, a pious templar can smite four times per day and finally at 9th level every half turn at will.
Use: Selected

This will add to the damage nicely as well

[K'yon Oblodra]

How would you go about building it in terms of which levels to take when?

Edit: kinda sad the knockdown ain't be too effective due to the lack of strength in the build.

[Sun Wukong]

Intuitive Strike requires you to maintain 2/3rds of your total HD as monk. So naturally, first 17 levels Monk, 3 levels Pious Templar, remaining 3 levels of Monk, and the remaining 7 levels of Pious Templar.

Now you could also go at it something like: 6 levels of Monk, you can have 3 levels of Pious Templar - 10 levels of Monk, 5 levels of Pious Templar - 15 levels of Monk, 7 levels of Pious Templar, but doing it this way will not allow you to spend those two epic feats on Epic Precision or Armor Skin, or possibly Epic Toughness.

Also, if you have the feats spare, pre-epic, getting Blindight, Combat Focus, Combat Awareness, Combat Vigor, and Combat Strike gets you some extra regeneration or +4 damage AB every now and then. It is one way to increase your damage output.

The leveling order could be something like this:

1: Blindfight
3: Intuitive Strike
6: Combat Focus
9: Weapon Focus (Unarmed) True Belieber
12: Fiery Fist
15: Combat Awareness
18: Combat Vigor
21: Combat Strike
23: Blazing Aura
25: Etc...

Now, if you want to play similar enough character right at this moment, you could consider Monk 20/Divine Champion 10. It is the same base idea, except you get Divine Wrath and bonus feats that could be spent on Great Wisdom.


Now, as for Intuitive Strike, the attack bonus it grants counts towards the game engines 'Extra AB' cap of +20. Thus, with a very high wisdom modifier you might not quite reach the total AB you should.


Edit: You will have Stunning Fist, to use as stunning fist. High wisdom increases the save... along with that of Quivering Palm.

[K'yon Oblodra]

Mmh didn't think this through, thought I'd get the 10 levels of Pious Templar as early as possible as the mettle ability looks so damn nice. But yea without the intuitive attack this would suck...

Edit: probably the favored soul would be the better way to utilize Pious Templar but the monk stuff looks pretty sexy

Edit: could a monk gain more extra attacks by using PTWF and kamas... Would lose tons of damage but just asking mechanically

[Sun Wukong]

Yes, and something like that was discussed in this topic: viewtopic.php?p=704689#p704689

[K'yon Oblodra]

Yes, and something like that was discussed in this topic: viewtopic.php?p=704689#p704689

Very interesting indeed

[LuvHandles]

I am also interested in the Pious Templar class. Not from a min/max point of view, but rather an RP one. I have a fighter/cleric/silverstar character that I am trying to grow into a "Selunite Paladin" (or as close as I can get while still serving a chaotic god). The pious templar's abilities are a good fit for the role I want him to fill.

I am slow rolling the character (trying not to level too quickly) in the hope that pious templar will be implemented sooner rather than later. Worst case, I can use fighter levels in place of pious templar, but I feel that this martial/divine prestige class would add the perfect flavor to my character.

[chad878262]

To the best of my knowledge none of the developers are currently working on Pious Templar so there is no scheduled release for the class. If there is a large enough desire from others it could be worked on eventually, but I haven't heard anything in a long time.