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new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:49 am
by Lockonnow
here is from baldur's gate 2 tob
Comet (N/A)

[ToB] Dragon's Breath (N/A)

[ToB] Energy Blades (N/A)

[ToB] Improved Alacrity (N/A)

[ToB] Summon Dark Planetar (N/A)

[ToB] Summon Planetar
for arcane caster
and for the divine caster
] Aura of Flaming Death

[ToB] Elemental Summoning

[ToB] Energy Blades

[ToB] Globe of Blades

[ToB] Greater Elemental Summoning

[ToB] Mass Raise Dead

[ToB] Storm of Vengeance

[ToB] Summon Deva

[ToB] Summon Fallen Deva
now for nwn1 epic spell

Dragon knight, Epic mage armor , Epic warding, Greater ruin, Hellball, Mummy dust

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:03 am
by Lockonnow
here you can read about the epic spell fro mBG 2 tob http://www.gamebanshee.com/baldursgatei ... velten.php

and here you can read about epic spell from nwn1
http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Epic_spells

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:06 am
by V'rass
I say yes to all of them.

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:14 am
by Lockonnow
lol V'rass

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:26 am
by dzidek1983
[ToB] Dragon's Breath (N/A) - hellball with a knockdown effect

[ToB] Energy Blades (N/A) - sucks balls

[ToB] Improved Alacrity (N/A) - to powerfull

[ToB] Summon Dark Planetar - its in Gate?

[ToB] Summon Planetar - its in Gate?

[ToB] Aura of Flaming Death - sucks balls

[ToB] Elemental Summoning - we have it through other spells

[ToB] Energy Blades - sucks balls

[ToB] Globe of Blades - cleric spell blade barirer?

[ToB] Greater Elemental Summoning - we have it through other spells

[ToB] Mass Raise Dead - do we need it?

[ToB] Storm of Vengeance - we have the Spell as lvl 9

[ToB] Summon Deva - its in Gate?

[ToB] Summon Fallen Deva - its in Gate?

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:54 am
by Lockonnow
dzidek1983 you need to speak modest or else they will come for you
and you forgoten those to Dragon knight, Epic mage armor , Epic warding, Greater ruin, Hellball, Mummy dust and Comet and some can adjust

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:04 am
by K'yon Oblodra
Improved alacrity only lasts 2 rounds not sure it's that OP.

Epic Mage armor... +20 armor? Woot!?

Dragon Knight... Summon an elder dragon? Uhm feels a bit strong.

Energy blades would create possibly over 30 blades and you'd get to attack 9 times per round with a bonus of 10 to AB... It's it just me or does that not seem quiet potent?

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:08 am
by Lockonnow
K'yon Oblodra it didt say elder dragon it say adult red dragon it is like when you summon and elemetal on lvl 7 spell then we have greater elemental on lvl 8 and the nwe have a elder elemental on lvl 9 ?

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:20 am
by dzidek1983
An energy blade is a discus made of pure energy. The disc gives +10 to THAC0, and when thrown does 1d4+5 missile damage as well as 1d10 additional electrical damage. This spell creates 1 energy disc per level of the caster and sets the caster's attacks to 9 as long as the discs are held.
so +10 AB (still can miss on 1) with wizards AB progression +15/+10/+5 (its still a thrown weapon not a RTA) would be +25/+15/+10 with some additional buffs (gr herosim, haste, reduce person, bonus from DEX) wizard could reach +35/+25/+20
we wpuld probably not grant them 9 APR but 6 APR, +35/+25/+20/+15/+10/+5
9 APR would mean we have 0AB bonus attacks (is negative AB possible?)
besides having 3APR is far more powerfll as you dont waste the blades on your low AB throws
THACO didnt work like AB currently so cant really compare the two

so with 3 APR you would have discs for 10 rounds as a lvl 30 wizard

sad part would be the dmg
lightning resistance easily blocks the additional dmg but even with it we see 19 max dmg = 570 max dmg over 10 rounds thas avg ca 375 dmg over 10 rounds and thats if you hit all discs which is unlikely, so 375 dmg with 75% hit chance we have like 280 dmg average over 60 seconds

not really impressive... for me this could go in as a support for your summons

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 9:28 am
by K'yon Oblodra
Sorry my bad on the dragon thingy.

But Energy Blades... The comparison you make is kinda comparing apples with oranges... Lots of "ifs" involved...

Re: new Epic spell idea

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 2:11 am
by dzidek1983
The ifs are resonable