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Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 12:47 pm
by Teaboar
Hello,

I'm thinking about starting a ranger, and I've been trying to decide what Favored Enemies to get. I'm a bit confused about certain creature categories though. For instance, I would have thought that dragons belong to the magical beasts category, but apparently they do not. Specifically I would be interested to know what monsters fall into these three categories in nwn2: Magical beasts, monstrous humanoids and reptilian humanoids.

Another thing that I'm curious about is what creature types are strongest and/or most prevalent at max level? So far I've decided to choose: Undead, Outsider, Giant, Elves and Dragons. I will probably go pure ranger so I should have 7 favored enemies in total. I realize that it might be a bad idea to plan everything in advance, but I would still prefer not to gimp myself too much, since I've heard that this server can be quite difficult at higher levels. Any help would be appreciated.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:31 pm
by K'yon Oblodra
There is nothing bad about planning it out, the guys will tell you which to get I am sure, elves, undead and outsiders are actually on the list of most valuables I think... Not sure on elves but I think it is one of the best enemies.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:46 pm
by Nyeleni
Depends if surface or UD. But I assume it is surface:

Undead
Giant
Monstrous Humanoid (yuan-ti, yeti for instance)
Dragon
Outsider

maybe elemental

reptilian humanoid is only good for one cave far to the south once you're epic

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 1:46 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Undead is a solid choice. They are many areas with undead with different CR and the mob of choice in DM events
Giants is another solid choice. MAny areas with them
Dragons is a good option. There arent many mobs to grind with, but there are enough bosses to justify its selection. Popular spawn in dm events as well
Outsider. Like dragons there are enough bosses and outsiders are used enough in DM events

I would say these are the 4 must have. After that you can get:
Monstrous humanoids. A good option with much presence in the server
Orcs if you play an elven character. There are a couple of areas with orcs and is good against PCs if that is something you care about.
Elementals is another good option. Their DR and high HP makes it difficult to bring down, especially on low STR rangers
Humans - They are used a lot in DM events and obviously is a popular race to pvp against since there are so many of them

After that there are no must have options. There are no elven spawns ( actually there are very few ) but is a good choice when asked to hunt down Drow PCs. Again, if PvP is something you care about, halfings is the go to race for many assassins.

Hope this helped

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 2:59 pm
by Teaboar
Thank you for all the replies. My ranger is going to be a wood elf, so I figured drow as favored enemy would make a lot of sense. Then again if hostile elven npc's are uncommon on the surface then I don't know if I want to pick them as a favored enemy, since I don't care about pvp. Orcs sound like an interesting choice as well, and based on what little I know about the lore I think it would make sense. What about constructs though? Are they uncommon on this server?

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 3:05 pm
by mrm3ntalist
Teaboar wrote:What about constructs though? Are they uncommon on this server?
Constructs are not very common. For me, there are better options than that.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 4:50 pm
by chad878262
One consideration that hasn't been mentioned is Aberration. There is a pretty popular Epic area that has them in spades.

If I might make a suggestion, start with your base of 5 and think of an RP consideration to determine the last 2... Your background might have something you can make a FE out of, for instance. Or keep them open to select based on the RP, DM events and other things that occur as you play your character. :)

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:01 pm
by Nyeleni
Maybe for the UD for mindflayers.

But umber hulks wouldn't really entice me to take aberrations.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 5:09 pm
by chad878262
Nyeleni wrote:Maybe for the UD for mindflayers.

But umber hulks wouldn't really entice me to take aberrations.
Aren't Naga's Aberations as well?

http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Naga

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Wed May 17, 2017 6:25 pm
by Nyeleni
Not according to nwn2 wiki. Only illithids and umber hulks are aberrations.

Then again the DnD wiki says nagas are aberrations too.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:29 am
by Tsidkenu
I'm surprised Goblinoid didn't make the cut given that there are several areas that have them at various level ranges (Tasloi, CR 3-4; Batiri CR 5-7; Goblins CR 6-9; Xvarts CR 12-16; Bugbears CR 14-17). Giants & Undead are the must-haves given how prolific they are around the server as well.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:34 am
by dzidek1983
Because they end at CR 17...

Giants is the best pick i think for the server... ogres, trolls, hill giants, frost giants, fire giants... many of them epic enemies
Second choice are undead... rest really doestn matter

With those two you have covered most of your leveling areas.

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:43 am
by Tsidkenu
dzidek1983 wrote:With those two you have covered most of your epic leveling areas.
Corrected. One still needs to reach epic, mind, and taking a 'low' creature like goblinoid I believe can only make the levelling process easier. Sure it's fine to build for level 30, but I prefer to make the journey there as painless as possible and players will spend plenty of hours grinding goblins/xvarts on their way to epics 8-)

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 4:54 am
by dzidek1983
no not only... trolls near CK are a great levleing area people forgot cos the quest is inactive, they spawn fast, theres loot there...
in the CK tradewat area you have ogres
if he takes monstrous humanoids he is golden with the gnolls also there
doesnt have to leave FAI for several level ups
then from late teens he starts the giant route (do we have the epic troll area or was it cut down recently?)
and lvls 1-10 are so easy and fast you dont need a favored enemy help to go pst them

Re: Question about bgtscc monsters

Posted: Thu May 18, 2017 11:03 am
by Teaboar
Thank you for all the replies. You've definitely made my choice easier. I'm still curious though, are there any epic areas containing any of these monster types: Aberration, Beast, Elemental, Magical beast, Monstrous humanoid, Reptilian humanoid or Shapechanger?