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Planar Calling update?

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Server Updates wrote:Planar calling: Initialize DB table at module load. Added 3 types of planar focus with varying strength. Added "Dusty Tome" item that can reveal true name of a random being.
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Planar calling: Added check for stacks of focus. Lowered DC on Dusty Tome and made so each player can only try to read it one time. Added player feedback for skill checks. Added current list of beings to the DB table.
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Planar calling: Added visual effect for binding the being in a circle while negotiating
What is this...? Does it affect Planar Binding/Ally?
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It is the first step to moving the planar calling spells closer to pnp. This will introduce unique persistent planar beings that, if you know their true name, can be called though the binding/ally/gate spells. This will not change the way the spells are used today, it is an addition.

It is only open for QC testing for now. When it is ready to go live I will make a detailed description on the wiki about the system.
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This is a really nice concept. Kudos, team!
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Thank you for the reply, Dedude! I'm not sure how that would mesh with Thaumaturge and the unique abilities the class gets. Is this still in the very early stages or could you give some info?
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Tsidkenu wrote:This is a really nice concept. Kudos, team!
No this is frickin awesome!!!
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It will mesh very well with Thaumaturges and any other caster using planar spells. There are a few fundamental steps to this I can talk about now, they probably wont change much:
  • First you need to learn the true name of a planar being you wish to call. Much of this will fall under the DM domain as they can give a name as a reward, or they can drop clues around the world. There will also be rare drops added that can give clues if you have the skills to understand them ;)
  • Second you must call the being and negotiate for its services. This can be expensive, and many things factor into the success or failure. Your own spell power, the strength of the spell, alignments, skills, etc.
  • If you manage to bind the being to your service, you will now be able to call on it to do your bidding. Just remember a called being is not a summoned creature.
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Oh, playing a warlock just got a bit more interesting. First you have to have a friend who can cast this spell of course :).
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That sounds interesting Dedude but I have some concern of already RPed out 'contacts' but hopefully... by the sound of it... a DM may be able to aid so I don't need to do a retcon of my RP or figure out a reason for a contract breach. I'll wait and am not particularly worried atm, just mildly concerned.

I think its good to make it more difficult/dangerous because it shouldn't be easy to deal with outsiders but I also hope, that those who have invested heavily into bargaining with outsiders will be rewarded for it.
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If you have already RP'ed contact and agreement with the imp "Ugly Bob" with a DM, then that DM can request Bob to be added and supply you with his true name. This is meant to reinforce exactly that RP Glowfire. Any part of the process can be controlled by a DM as (s)he sees fit, the system outlined is how it works without DM interference.

I don't think you need to be concerned at all.
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I can't say I've RPed that out with a DM as it's backstory. But yea, good to know.
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Sounds really interesting, wonder what benefits the knowing of the name will give.
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K'yon Oblodra wrote:Sounds really interesting, wonder what benefits the knowing of the name will give.
When you cast a planar calling spell (binding/ally/gate) you can name a race or creature type and the spell seeks out a random creature of that type. That is how the spells basically work today. But you can also name a specific being if you know its true name. Then it is that specific being that is being transported to you.

When you call for an imp, you will generally get a "standard generic" low ranking imp. But in the hierarchy of Baator there are higher ranked and more powerful imps. If you know the true name of a high ranking imp you can call on that specifically. That is the benefit of knowing the true name. There is a limit though, as sufficiently powerful beings can chose to resist the call. But you probably wouldn't want to mess with those anyway, as they might even be able to break your binding spell :twisted:
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Sounds like it could potentially bring much more powerful beings than the standard binding... Really intriguing, was already using the lesser planar binding to great success, really changed my solo game to be much more efficient as little as I like grinding.
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No limits in the system, but of course all beings will be subject to standard balance concerns.
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I suppose the update of the bindings would kinda ask to expand the creature pool.

From my experience with the lesser planar binding I can say that there is like 3 LE summons 3 CE summons but only 1 NE Summon.

The one that's available and to be the strongest of them all being the shadow mastiff with impressive AB, decent AC and a sneak attack.

However it's also unable to speak, so it would be cool to have different options since being able to talk I just looked into the neutral evil outsiders and found the daemon and the div with several species under the div that look very promising.

Could we get some of those added? I could post more detailed information if needed ;)
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