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PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:30 am
by Face
Can the Palemaster vampire summon get weapon plz?
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:40 am
by Valefort
No, they're excellent as they are.
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 5:47 am
by Blackman D
nope
if you want a vampire with a weapon use normal CGU
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:32 am
by Deathgrowl
Best non-companion long duration summons in the game. Hardly need improvement.
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:36 am
by Face
I must be missing something , What makes it so good then?
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:41 am
by Valefort
It lasts forever and is a vampire that regenerates with quite nice stats all considered

Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:52 am
by chad878262
Face wrote:I must be missing something , What makes it so good then?
If you buff it like any other summon it is a near invulnerable tank in PvE that does enough damage for you to stand back and cherry pick when your caster wants to through a few blasts or DC spells.
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:58 am
by The Whistler
Could someone please post a screenshot of the updated vamp's stats ? ty
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:15 am
by Face
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:55 am
by metaquad4
TBH, its not really that good. But, this has been requested a number of times through the years and the same handful of people have shot it down each time. Its not going to change, it should probably be a sticky.
"Don't even bother requesting PM vampire be changed, it won't be. Its great, we promise." Something along those lines should do it.
Just stick to CGU and ignore the PM summons. Even without them, PM is still an alright class.
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:02 am
by Valefort
Yep .. clearly not improving that further. That sticky is a good idea though the wording should obviously be more along the lines of "No, it's powerful even if you refuse to admit it. Think again, thank you."
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:26 am
by Planehopper
It certainly seems better than what I recall any of the planar cohorts are that I have access to.
This comes with a bit more baggage but I am not sure how this is 'weak'. Looks like it could be buffed up fairly well.
What is the weakness?
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:44 am
by Face
Ey all im asking for is a weapon on the vamp if thats seen as to op so be it.
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:48 am
by Valefort
Yes it would be pretty OP, that's a Swash 20 with 30 AB, if a weapon is given to him you can GMW and keen it which is way too much.
Re: PM vamp summon
Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:58 am
by Deathgrowl
30 AB, 28 AC, 200 HP, decent damage.
With no buffs.
Yeah, that thing is good enough.