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Caster level

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:38 pm
by tribunal
Char who has:

10 lev of Wizard
10 lev of Archmage
10 lev of Blood Magus

is 30 Caster Level, right ?

or 29 because of the Blood Magus progression ( 9/10 ) ?

Re: Caster level

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:43 pm
by chad878262
CL29 unless Practiced Caster and / or Spell Power I.

Could be CL33 if you take Practiced Caster and Spell Power I, II, and III.

Re: Caster level

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:47 pm
by tribunal
Practiced Caster gives +2 or +4 ?

Re: Caster level

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:07 pm
by chad878262
Up to +4, But will not take you past CL30. So you can take classes prc's without full caster progression, but you won't gain caster level over 30 with PSC.

Re: Caster level

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:30 am
by Tsidkenu
OC build will have 28 CL because BM is 8/10 now.

30 CL with Practiced Spellcaster
31 CL with Blood Component + above.
33 CL with Archmage Spell Power II + above.
35 CL with Bloodseeking Spell (PvP consent abiliy) + above.

If you reorganised the build to include 10 levels of Red Wizard (W 5/RW 10/BM 9/AM 6) you could get 40 CL in spells of the specialised school.

Building with Shadow Adept (W 5/ SA 10/ BM 9/ AM 6) would net you CL 42 in Necro/Illusion/Enchantment.

Re: Caster level

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:24 am
by ctothep
Tsidkenu wrote:Building with Shadow Adept (W 5/ SA 10/ BM 9/ AM 6) would net you CL 42 in Necro/Illusion/Enchantment.
42 seems a bit high :shock:

This would end up with CL 39

W -> 5
SA -> 10
BM -> 8 (9 with Prac Sp)
AM -> 6

SA Spellpower feats -> +3
BM Bloodseeking Blood Comp -> +3
AM Spellpower -> +2 (AM Spellpower 3 needs lvl 8 AM)

38 is really high though if you really invest into int you could get a DC 44 Wail or Weird

That build is really feat starved though

Edit: Actually ends up at CL 39 if you take practiced SC

Re: Caster level

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:02 am
by Tsidkenu
SA gets +4 CL/+2 DC to Necro/Illusion/Enchantment for Shadow Magic User (level 1 feat).
SA also gets +3 Spellpower (levels 3,7,10) to the same.

Total = +7 CL for Necro/Illusion/Enchantment.

Combine that with Blood Component (+1) and Bloodseeking Spell (+2) and Archmage Spell Power (+2) = +12 CL = 42 CL.

Re: Caster level

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:37 am
by aaron22
Tsidkenu wrote:OC build will have 28 CL because BM is 8/10 now.
i know BM skips progress at 5 but i thought and from what i see in the descriptor, that is it. what is new?
- Spells per Day/Spells Known: At every level except 5th the Blood Magus gains more spells per day.
i assume that means its CL increases with BM at every level except 5 as well.

Re: Caster level

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:08 am
by ctothep
Tsidkenu wrote:SA gets +4 CL/+2 DC to Necro/Illusion/Enchantment for Shadow Magic User (level 1 feat).
SA also gets +3 Spellpower (levels 3,7,10) to the same.

Total = +7 CL for Necro/Illusion/Enchantment.

Combine that with Blood Component (+1) and Bloodseeking Spell (+2) and Archmage Spell Power (+2) = +12 CL = 42 CL.
shadow magic feat only grants +2 to DCs afaik?

Edit: just checked ingame on my char its indeed +4 to CL aswell :shock:

never knew lol that build ends up with 42 then yea my bad