Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Lives?

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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by aaron22 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:25 pm

steve.. distracting the conversation from only DM events and steering them to other avenues is at least partially my fault. the thread has had some over-view meandering. but yea. lets get it back on track.

to me, DM event strikes are a start. rome wasnt built in a day and all.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by Hoihe » Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:46 pm

aaron22 wrote:oh and if you want that perfect story for your character....


Let us deride the other side savvy? Not like I cannot do the same, yet I try not to barring that one case where I responded to one directly.





Indefinite or bust.


DM events - Metaplot "lives", where lives represent the permission to affect and participate in the events. It is up to the DM and the player to work together to find a plausible reason why they can no longer participate for the duration without making play of the character impossible or permanently debiliating them. Which will be an issue as It already seems my character will end up forced to participate in a potential event line which OOC I'd like to avoid due to IC sensibilities.


High-end Dungeons - Indefinite punishments as previously outlined to fit the great rewards at the end (well, only Hell shop has great rewards). Always make it fixable to avoid ruining characters. People want them permanent can always not fix them, those who don't will actually generate roleplay.





I'll admit that I very, very much want the Hell shop and dying in hell in general to have serious, long-term hard to fix indefinite consequences. Lore-wise, Hell can make you suffer identity death (dunking in river styx) (Which I really, really hate. People may dislike some forms of RP and find them greatly distasteful, for me it's identity death), or end up soul trapped or a lot of things very hard to fix (yes, you can fix river styx if you make a successful assault on where identities are stored!). And yet, people casually visit hell at such a level, that even my 8 wisdom 14 cha character goes "no (do-me) way I go anywhere near that portal, and I'm the person who skirted the border of the Far Realm."




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Here is definite proof indicating indefinite effects are better than permanent death for consequences.


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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by Egg Shen » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:10 am

We bear the responsibility for the types of characters we create and the types of OOC concessions we're willing to make, given the medium in which we are playing.

If you want to have a better time, choose characters whose role play isn't completely dischordant with how the server actually works, allow for more OOC concessions (i.e. a more liberal suspension of disbelief or stronger commitment to ignoring the weirdness that comes from playing in a persistent world), or go play on a hardcore role play server. Most of what has been suggested used to exist at one time or another in the NWN2 universe. Perhaps it still does?

You are the architect of your own happiness on the server. You know how the server works, thus it is up to you whether you can find enjoyment.

Play a character who doesn't fear death because of OOC admin choices on how the server is set up??? That doesn't expose flaws in the server. It exposes flaws in your approach to the server.

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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by ctothep » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:59 am

I remember a suggestion that was made a while ago around perm death token that you could get at lvl 1 from an npc in the nexus. If you take that token and you die once the character dies permanently.

I would very much like to have that.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by thids » Wed Jul 12, 2017 2:42 pm

I have a perfect solution, killing two birds with one stone:

Those who want permadeath can have it and fix the setting. They can RP peasants who can't afford raise dead and resurrection while the rest of the players can play their larger than life level 30 demigods. Problem solved.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by Steve » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:15 pm

Xanfyrst wrote: Then having the rule is pointless and should be removed.
I had seen this earlier and thought "Yeah, an alternative."

If Permastrikes as a DM "tool" in Events and the Server Wide Campaign(s) are unused, and even unwanted, then better to make a change such as their removal.

Then we all will know the EXACT paradigm in which we're gaming.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by Tekill » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:14 pm

aaron22 wrote:Image
Vote for me and I will give everyone a raise dead scroll.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by CleverUsername123 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:23 pm

Tekill wrote:Vote for me and I will give everyone a raise dead scroll.
That's not in the budget, Tekill. We can't afford that many Raise Dead scrolls.
also you're just a figurehead for the power behind the throne.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by Laughingman » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:01 am

Vote for me and 1/8th of you won't be able to afford templecare anymore.*
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Liv

Unread post by Mac » Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:16 pm

Bumped the below thread for anyone who wants to tell their perma-death story or start a new perma-death character.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=49967&hilit=
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Lives?

Unread post by Steve » Tue Dec 03, 2019 8:44 am

BUMP!!

Especially because of this.

And the previous post link.

Let's see who can get the highest Level PC without Perma Dying!! :dance:
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Lives?

Unread post by K'yon Oblodra » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:22 am

Since I am only playing a single character and for me it's about building up stories I am not really interested in the perma death thrill at the moment.

Might change if I play on the server for longer and feel like I am growing tired of the way I am playing but I think then I'd probably rather stop playing all together than playing with this perma death thing.

I am by no means saying it is bad, I think it's great that the guys that like it can have their thrill but yea for me it's currently not interesting.

I hope it doesn't lead to tension between players that don't have that option on and those that do. I could see that feeling very bad for the player at risk especially in pvp.

Hopefully people will find like-minded and have fun together.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Lives?

Unread post by Korchas » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:55 am

The good thing is that at least usually, PvP does not result in you being flung to Myrkul without some NPC intervention. So there's that.
I personally tend to play with as little risk of dying as possible no matter whether it has consequences or no, as dying causes all sorts of annoying little moments to RP away.

As is, I am playing out (at the moment) that my main toon has died once, and is very adamant about not repeating the experience even after she was lucky enough to be brought back quickly. Resurrective magic -is- a thing in the setting, but not one that is used as often as we usually do in the game.

I also tend to avoid PvP anyways, cuz it's mostly futile with the current way it's handled and only leads to upset people :D But hey, to each their own. If I die, so be it.
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Re: Would u still play on BGTSCC if yr Toon had only "X" Lives?

Unread post by Bobthehero » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:11 pm

Probably not, with my luck regarding save or die spell and the occasional death caused by lag, I probably would have given up a while ago due to making no progress.
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