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HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:04 am
by Moltrazahn
Given that some updates have been/is comming around. I got a few questions about Hips.
1. Is hips only possible in light and no armor now?
2. If you use hips as someone is targeting you with a spell, the spell gets cancelled duo to loss of LoS.
However... what if you only had... like 1 hide and move silently (i know thats not possible but just theoretically speaking). Would the caster keep casting if their spot & listen are high enough to spot you. Or is the mechanic to spot the hipser something that triggers every round, rather than constantly? (Meaning that hips brakes spells nomatter what)
Somehow i imagine druids knowing this answer.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:06 am
by mrm3ntalist
Moltrazahn wrote:Given that some updates have been/is comming around. I got a few questions about Hips.
1. Is hips only possible in light and no armor now?
You can hips in any armor
2. If you use hips as someone is targeting you with a spell, the spell gets cancelled duo to loss of LoS.
However... what if you only had... like 1 hide and move silently (i know thats not possible but just theoretically speaking). Would the caster keep casting if their spot & listen are high enough to spot you. Or is the mechanic to spot the hipser something that triggers every round, rather than constantly? (Meaning that hips brakes spells nomatter what)
Somehow i imagine druids knowing this answer.
Hips breaks spell lock - if timed correctly - even with 1 hide/ms
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:09 am
by Moltrazahn
Thanks a bunch!
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:33 am
by Utran
I would actually like to ask for the rangers HIPS to be enhanced to actually work in caves as a natural terrain?
Thank you.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:39 am
by Kiran
Look up the PRC Cavestalker.
Should be what you are looking for.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:32 am
by mrm3ntalist
Kiran wrote:Look up the PRC Cavestalker.
Should be what you are looking for.
Cavestalker has a darkvision prereq so it is not for all races.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:35 am
by Kagger911
mrm3ntalist wrote:Kiran wrote:Look up the PRC Cavestalker.
Should be what you are looking for.
Cavestalker has a darkvision prereq so it is not for all races.
We have to make compromises.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:39 am
by mrm3ntalist
Kagger911 wrote:mrm3ntalist wrote:Kiran wrote:Look up the PRC Cavestalker.
Should be what you are looking for.
Cavestalker has a darkvision prereq so it is not for all races.
We have to make compromises.
There are many races with darkvision.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:41 am
by chad878262
plus Shadow Dancer gives Darkvision... Of course than you have full time HiPS, but Cavestalker still gives you Camouflage in natural caverns... Camouflage is fantastic. R24/SD3/CS3 still gets +2 AC from Natural Ward, full time HiPS, BoE, PTWF (or One Shot) and CL 28 so is not a bad way to go, if you don't want to be a race with Darkvision.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:42 am
by Kagger911
Also, you can use heal while hips(ed). Found that out recently. You can heal other people and not break hips and heal yourself.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:44 am
by mrm3ntalist
Kagger911 wrote:Also, you can use heal while hips(ed). Found that out recently. You can heal other people and not break hips and heal yourself.
Having max heal skill and being able to use two kits in a round, that gives massive healing 66 + any bonuses + 2d20. Thats a lot of healing.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:50 am
by Sputnik
Are any of these bugs going to be looked at and/or fixed?
1. HiPS breaking LoS for spellcasting regardless of the caster's detection skills
2. The use of healing kits while stealthed
....or are they meant to be features?
::Edit:: I play several toons with HiPs. This is not a jab, but a legitimate question.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:51 am
by Flasmix
If you have Hips you will also find a new feat called "Shake your Hips"
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:55 am
by mrm3ntalist
Sputnik wrote:Are any of these bugs going to be looked at and/or fixed?
1. HiPS breaking LoS for spellcasting regardless of the caster's detection skills
2. The use of healing kits while stealthed
....or are they meant to be features?
::Edit:: I play several toons with HiPs. This is not a jab, but a legitimate question.
It is unlikely that they will be changed.
Re: HiPS questions.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:49 pm
by Kagger911
mrm3ntalist wrote:Sputnik wrote:Are any of these bugs going to be looked at and/or fixed?
1. HiPS breaking LoS for spellcasting regardless of the caster's detection skills
2. The use of healing kits while stealthed
....or are they meant to be features?
::Edit:: I play several toons with HiPs. This is not a jab, but a legitimate question.
It is unlikely that they will be changed.
But evasion is a bug, huh. Love the hate for none caster melee classes.