Warlock Conlock

[blowuup]

http://nwn2db.com/build/?271805

I've caroused through the forum and poured over several guides online to make this Tiefling Conlock build.
Anything I missed in terms of a blasty warlock?

I've got UMD, ICE, Full Caster Levels, Battle Caster w/ Mithral Fullplate, Tons of Con Points for Hellfire Blasts.

1: See the Unseen, Eldritch Spear, Darkness (combine with Blindsight scolls)
2: Walk Unseen, Flee the Scene, Eldritch Chain (Brimstone until Hellfire levels are taken)
3: Devour Magic, Wall of Perilous Flame, Vitriolic Blast
4: Dark Foresight, Dark Premonition, Retributive Invisibility

[Tekill]

I have not tested it out on this server. But you can take fast healing (the regen feats) plus the devil form invocation...for decent regen. And you get to be a devil Rawr.
Check the forum for changes to fast healing first though...it was nurfed.

Is there a feat to let you blast in devil form? Gutteral something ?

*edit* So gutteral Invocation does not apply on this sever. But can you use your blast while using Word of Changing?

[aaron22]

I generally haven't seen improvement by dipping into dragonslayer. It seems alright when you build it and it seems like it is better. But when you get in game it's better if you just take the lock levels. Just something I came to realize. You will bank those lock levels and they will move you. The DS levels will feel like they are holding you back.

[blowuup]

I have not tested it out on this server. But you can take fast healing (the regen feats) plus the devil form invocation...for decent regen. And you get to be a devil Rawr.
Check the forum for changes to fast healing first though...it was nurfed.

Is there a feat to let you blast in devil form? Gutteral something ?

Sadly GuttaralSomething is not on the server. Some people would use it with Monk to get extra Wisdom AC. Cool concept but no go

I generally haven't seen improvement by dipping into dragonslayer. It seems alright when you build it and it seems like it is better. But when you get in game it's better if you just take the lock levels. Just something I came to realize. You will bank those lock levels and they will move you. The DS levels will feel like they are holding you back.

I think adding in Dragonslayer levels, cause I put them in late it would only delay spellcasting progression once. I'd get a second Dark Invocation at 18 instead of 17

Here are the differences I found

7 Dragonslayer
+5 AC.
+4 Spell Penetration
+1 Fortitude
+3 Will
+28 HP

27 Warlock
+3d6 Blast Damage
Room for Dark Transient
Max Intimidate

[Nemni]

I would recommend one of the blasts (undead bane, tempest, repelling). They are better than Eldritch Chain unless you want to apply an essence (which you don't with such low charisma) or if you want to avoid melee (which you don't either with such strong defenses).

Otherwise, if sturdiness is what you want then your build is pretty great Steadfast determination would be helpful, but very hard to fit in as a warlock.

[chad878262]

Dragon Slayer grants Medium Armor if you want to wear MFP, though you can do just fine with Mithral Chainmail or Mithral BP. DS also increases BAB which can be somewhat of a help for ConLock, especially if you are only going to have 16 modified DEX for your RTA's. Finally, DS opens up Tumble and gives free spell penetration which at a minimum can make up for the cost of taking the class (Dodge/Iron Will).

The resident Warlock of expert gave me the advice of just going Warlock 27/DS3 and that is a very strong, simple build.

[mrm3ntalist]

Are you certain dragon slayer does not progress the dice?

I need to test this.

[Nemni]

I assumed he just meant going DS meant 2 less epic feats => 3d6 less blast damage.

[Argumantive]

DS advances the warlock blast die. So no loss of blast dmg on that front. (currently playing awarlock with DS levels.) I would also suggest dropping battle caster sicne mith fp will give you 8+3 ac, while a mithral BP at avernus will give you 5+5 which you can maximize with bracers of dex+4, so overall you will get a 5(5) armor with +4 enchantment, and repalce it with luck of heroes for +1ac/saves at lvl 1.

Replace spear with all seing eyes for free blindsight as well, spear is not a must, as well as replace darkness with leaps and bounds if can't afford bracers of dex or want another item there.

Would advice taking ignore the pyre over walk unseen since you can just recast retributive invis.

Would suggest take repelling blast over devour magic. and think plague/wall, w/e you prefer (plague destorys casters), and vitro is always a solid choice.

The lvl 4 invocations don't have anything else usefull unless you want otherwordly leap for rp/shenanigans.

So you end up with 1 free feat at 18 like this.

[mrm3ntalist]

I assumed he just meant going DS meant 2 less epic feats => 3d6 less blast damage.

That would explain it, but it is not the case. Here is the build - http://nwn2db.com/build/?271805

[blowuup]

DS advances the warlock blast die. So no loss of blast dmg on that front. (currently playing awarlock with DS levels.) I would also suggest dropping battle caster sicne mith fp will give you 8+3 ac, while a mithral BP at avernus will give you 5+5 which you can maximize with bracers of dex+4, so overall you will get a 5(5) armor with +4 enchantment, and repalce it with luck of heroes for +1ac/saves at lvl 1.

Replace spear with all seing eyes for free blindsight as well, spear is not a must, as well as replace darkness with leaps and bounds if can't afford bracers of dex or want another item there.

Would advice taking ignore the pyre over walk unseen since you can just recast retributive invis.

Would suggest take repelling blast over devour magic. and think plague/wall, w/e you prefer (plague destorys casters), and vitro is always a solid choice.

The lvl 4 invocations don't have anything else usefull unless you want otherwordly leap for rp/shenanigans.

So you end up with 1 free feat at 18 like this.

Solid advice, I like it. ☺ With your changes, instead of Luck of Heroes, I can pick toughness and Steadfast determination as some of the others have suggested.
I swapped out Eldritch Chain for Ignore the Pyre and Devour Magic for Repelling Blast.
However, I kept darkness just for thematic reasons.

I assumed he just meant going DS meant 2 less epic feats => 3d6 less blast damage.

That would explain it, but it is not the case. Here is the build - http://nwn2db.com/build/?271805

I was explaining the differences between having Dragonslayer levels or full Warlock levels.
With 7 more warlock levels, you get 2 more feats. +2d6 Blasts (with Eldritch Master respectively 3d6)

[Nemni]

I assumed he just meant going DS meant 2 less epic feats => 3d6 less blast damage.

That would explain it, but it is not the case. Here is the build - http://nwn2db.com/build/?271805

Do you mean the fact that he ends up at 12d6 instead of 14d6? I think Nwn2db doesn't take into account the practiced invoker.

[Kanada]

Do not take Dragonslayer if you intend to take the Dark Invocation for DR, the Dslayer class DR overrides it. PITA.

[blowuup]

Do not take Dragonslayer if you intend to take the Dark Invocation for DR, the Dslayer class DR overrides it. PITA.

Ouch that hurts.

Then I guess I should switch to Otherworldy Leap or to Word of Changing.

Would it be possible to have a DM remove the Dragonslayer DR?