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Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:10 am
by Lockonnow
could this one Phantasmal Killer be made in to a epic spell so it will get higher DC
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:24 am
by Nachti
You have Weird and Phantasmal killer, what do you need more?
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:29 am
by Lockonnow
better spells and i need a better game was there anything else you wish to know Nachti ?
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:40 am
by Flasmix
Lockonnow wrote:better spells and i need a better game was there anything else you wish to know Nachti ?

Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:27 am
by ctothep
Turning into an epic spell wouldnt give you much higher DCs anyway and you couldnt quicken it anymore which is where the spell really shines. As Nachti mentioned you have Weird which is pretty much an AoE phant killer at a much higher DC.
Istons phant killer had a DC of 37, his vamp feast had a DC of 39. Not that big of a difference.
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:37 am
by Lockonnow
ctothep Weird is evil that is why i only ask about it Phantasmal Killer if it could be made in to a epic spell he could have give me satisfy answer but Nachti chose to give me cheeky replicat
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 5:41 am
by dedude
Weird is no more evil than Phantasmal Killer.
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:16 am
by Lockonnow
so it is first evil if it say evil from the magic school so i most have misunderstood look here
http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Weird abd then look at this
http://nwn2.wikia.com/wiki/Create_Greater_Undead
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:38 am
by Valefort
Weird does not have an "Evil" descriptor, it's not evil. It is however added to the spell list of the clerics who have the "Evil" domain, which can be confusing.
On the contrary Create Greater Undead has an "Evil" descriptor and thus is evil.
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:52 am
by Lockonnow
yes true what you say Valefort but i still think it sould have a Evil" descriptor, couse it remind me of vampire feat it summon a evil monster how is the that couse thet both summon Image fear full monster shadow like the lvl 8 spell lure shadow demons that one is evil shadow demons (Image) right or are we talk about "undead shadow like demon " so they could be turn undead??
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:00 am
by ctothep
It doesnt summon a monster mate
It creates an illusion of the victims greatest fear which scares it to death
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:09 am
by Lockonnow
greatest fear like the movie Hellraiser they show you what you most fear and take a Image of IT
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:48 am
by aaron22
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:52 am
by chad878262
Lock, Phantasmal Killer does the exact same thing as Weird. So if you argue Weird is evil, you are also arguing Phantasmal Killer is evil. Weird is literally an AoE Phantasmal Killer as the descriptions and saves are identical.
Re: Phantasmal Killer
Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 1:36 pm
by Lockonnow
Is there a spell Call NIGHTMARE(Bad Dreams)